From: Jonathan Greenwood II (gwood83@gmail.com)
Date: Mon Jan 19 2009 - 15:32:27 ARST
Negative on the language change. It needs to be English only in my opinion
as English should be the universal language for Technology Period. If a
candidate is serious about his Certs whether it's Cisco or something else
they need to get serious about their English as well. The proposal you guys
are throwing out there will start to have all sorts of people communicating
in their own language and will study in their own language. I think
every major technology or cert is written in English let alone was created
in the US ie Cisco, Microsoft, Oracle, Unix if you go back to the history
at Berkley University. You have to have common ground far as language and
English seems to be leading in several categorys outside of just technology
in general, travel, business etc...
My 2cents
Jonathan
On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 9:02 AM, Darby Weaver <ccie.weaver@gmail.com> wrote:
> Actually the fairest thing to do would be to administer the test in more
> than just English. At least 5 or 10 major languages that are prominent in
> a
> given region at a minium.
>
> There are CCIE's across the globe now and 75% of them probably do not speak
> English as their native language.
>
> Fair is Fair.
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk@gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > I think the questions in the CCIE LAB exam should be in multiple
> languages
> > at the same time and they should mix it as well such that within the same
> > sentence you would see 10 different languages, so one word will be in
> > Arabic, the second word in Latin and so forth. Now....that's what i
> > call challenging.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 7:33 AM, Marko Milivojevic <markom@markom.info
> >wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 15:16, Darby Weaver <ccie.weaver@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > You see that always puzzled me how people who can't read English
> >> actually
> >> > pass the lab and do so with apparent ease.
> >>
> >> That's "easy". First of all, passive command of the language is not
> >> the same as "active use". I will give you my personal example.
> >>
> >> I perfectly read and can understand written and most of oral
> >> Icelandic. However, I can't speak it fluently (I sound like a 7-year
> >> old kid of foreign parents). I would have tremendous problem
> >> explaining CCIE-level material in Icelandic. However, most of my
> >> day-to-day work includes trouble tickets written in Icelandic that I
> >> can read and act upon. I'm still network expert in Iceland :-).
> >>
> >> There are people who can read and probably write well enough in
> >> English. They can understand technical literature in English with some
> >> difficulty. However, those people may have a problem speaking English.
> >> That makes them no less network experts.
> >>
> >> While I support the interview approach in general, we should really
> >> remember that English is not even a second language for some. Sure, we
> >> should all do it, but there should also be world peace :-).
> >>
> >>
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