From: Craig Tompkins (sidalo@gmail.com)
Date: Fri Jan 16 2009 - 20:30:29 ARST
GS is still one of the best places to learn or at least get exposure to the
topics pertaining to the subject matter. The collective knowledge of the
members on this list on the topics at hand is unrivaled. Do to the nature
of the list and how it exists, it does contain some extra comments and
opinions, and you have to learn to simply delete them and move on in order
to gain the benefit that the list has to offer.
The trick is to get the information you need, and extract what you are
looking for while filtering all the other stuff.
--- Craig Tompkins CCIE #16921On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 1:57 PM, Valentine Amalu <vamalu@secnetng.com>wrote:
> Hi Anthony, > > Thanks for the clarification. Maybe I'll adopt your method. I'm here to > learn, pure and simple. > > Regards, > Valentine > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Anthony Sequeira [mailto:asequeira@internetworkexpert.com] > Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 7:35 PM > To: Valentine Amalu > Cc: 'nortic @hackermail.com'; 'Atlanta CCIE'; 'Huan Pham'; 'Scott M > Vermillion'; 'hanan'; ccielab@groupstudy.com > Subject: Re: Changes to CCIE Lab and Written Exam Question Format and > Scoring > > Hi Valentine. > > GroupStudy is not moderated. A nice guy named Paul owns and operates > the list. He occasionally kicks people off - but mainly only if they > are trying to steal his list members through the creation of their own > list. If you prefer a moderated forum - you can find those other > places on the Web. I think you alluded to the fact that you know where > they are. :-) > > I have been active here since 2004, and I will say that in the last > year there has been a lot of Politics, Gender, and Religion discussed. > I sure wish it was not the case, but I just get better and better at > ignoring those threads. > > I hope you can learn to enjoy the list (with its faults) and I hope > you continue to enjoy your studies. > > Anthony J. Sequeira, CCIE #15626, CCSI #23251 > Senior CCIE Instructor > > asequeira@internetworkexpert.com > > Internetwork Expert, Inc. > http://www.InternetworkExpert.com > Toll Free: 877-224-8987 > Outside US: 775-826-4344 > > On Jan 16, 2009, at 1:00 PM, Valentine Amalu wrote: > > > Atlantaccie, nortic, Hun et al. > > > > Seriously, > > > > I joined GS in other to get encouragement and learn from other > > professionals > > as I prepare for my CCIE lab exam. I cannot deny the level of Cisco > > networking skill displayed by a lot of people in GS. > > > > However, I cannot say the same for their bigoted and insensitive > > jibes at > > people of non US or Western Europe nationality. Take for example, the > > comments about scammers and Nigeria, or the snide comments about > > Arabs or > > Chinese or Indians being the ones that cheat most at the lab. If I > > want to > > indulge in ethno political flaming, I know where to go, and it > > should not be > > GS. It's pretty obvious to me that smartness and stupidity can > > coexist. > > > > I am Nigerian, no apologies, and i don't like anyone, no matter how > > seemingly smart the person is to call me a scammer, directly or > > indirectly, > > no not at all. Yes, there are scammers in Nigeria, just like there > > thieves > > and murderers and hackers and all sorts of criminals in different > > countries. > > I have seen enough of such in the US and UK, for example. > > > > I will not allow anyone call me a scammer and just let it go. For > > all those > > ignorant/stupid people that make such comments, maybe you live in > > paradise, > > where everyone is perfect. Please let me know such a place ok. > > > > GS moderators, > > Like I said, if I want ethno political fights, I know where to go. I > > believe > > you guys should let everyone on this forum know (or maybe remind > > people) > > what this forum is all about. I don't know how long such bigoted > > comments > > have been going on in GS, since I am just a few months old in GS, > > but I > > would want to believe that it's not the norm. > > > > Regards, > > Valentine > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: nortic @hackermail.com [mailto:nortic@hackermail.com] > > Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 1:06 PM > > To: Atlanta CCIE; Valentine Amalu > > Cc: Huan Pham; Scott M Vermillion; hanan; ccielab@groupstudy.com > > Subject: Re: Changes to CCIE Lab and Written Exam Question Format and > > Scoring > > > > Do you have any other conceived perceptions you would like to share? > > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Atlanta CCIE" <atlantaccie@gmail.com> > >> To: "Valentine Amalu" <vamalu@secnetng.com> > >> Cc: "Huan Pham" <pnhuan@yahoo.com>, "Scott M Vermillion" > > <scott_ccie_list@it-ag.com>, hanan <nouran@skynet.be>, > > ccielab@groupstudy.com > >> Subject: Re: Changes to CCIE Lab and Written Exam Question Format and > > Scoring > >> Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 18:02:59 -0500 > >> > >> > >> You are right. Not all nigerians are scammers but for some reason all > >> scammers are nigerians :) > >> > >> On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 4:14 PM, Valentine Amalu > > <vamalu@secnetng.com>wrote: > >> > >>> Hey, > >>> Do you guys mind? There are Nigerians on the forum, and just > >>> incase you > >>> don't know, we are not all scammers! Stcik to the issue at hand. > >>> > >>> Cheers, > >>> Valentine > >>> > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On > >>> Behalf Of > >>> Huan > >>> Pham > >>> Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 8:16 PM > >>> To: Scott M Vermillion > >>> Cc: hanan; <ccielab@groupstudy.com> > >>> Subject: Re: Changes to CCIE Lab and Written Exam Question Format > >>> and > >>> Scoring > >>> > >>> Yeah I see that now > >>> > >>> If this turns out not to be a hoax then by doing this type of > > communication > >>> practice, Cisco has greatly helped Negerian scammers in bluring > >>> the line > >>> between true stories & hoaxes then ;) > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Sent from my iPhone > >>> > >>> On 15/01/2009, at 6:58 AM, "Scott M Vermillion" > > <scott_ccie_list@it-ag.com > >>>> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>> Hi Huan, > >>> > >>> The problem is that if you go to www.cisco.com and then navigate > >>> to the > >>> certification online support page (so that you can be confident > >>> you're > > not > >>> being directed to a bogus site), you will find a Q&A that confirms > >>> this > >>> change and addresses a number of questions regarding it. The e- > >>> mail is > >>> poorly worded, suggesting a hoax. Also, this is not in alignment > >>> with > >>> Cisco's general practice of announcing changes six months out, > >>> further > >>> raising suspicions (at least in some of us). However, unless > >>> someone > > has > >>> hacked Cisco's online cert support site, it appears to be > >>> authentic... > >>> > >>> Cheers, > >>> > >>> Scott > >>> > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: Huan Pham [mailto:pnhuan@yahoo.com] > >>> Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 12:47 PM > >>> To: Scott M Vermillion > >>> Cc: hanan; <ccielab@groupstudy.com> > >>> Subject: Re: Changes to CCIE Lab and Written Exam Question Format > >>> and > >>> Scoring > >>> > >>> Can't agree more! It's a hoax > >>> > >>> Based on responses from this highly technical list, i guess Nigerean > >>> scammers will continue to be able to make easy money by sending scam > >>> emails!!!! > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Sent from my iPhone > >>> > >>> On 15/01/2009, at 2:39 AM, "Scott M Vermillion" > > <scott_ccie_list@it-ag.com > >>>> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>> Have to admit that my initial reaction was that this must be a > >>> forged > >>> e-mail > >>> based on the following passage: > >>> > >>> "The exams are not been increased in difficulty..." > >>> > >>> Not exactly the kind of grammatical gymnastics you would expect to > >>> see > > in > >>> an > >>> official communiqui from Cisco. > >>> > >>> However, there is now a Q&A session at the Online Support page: > >>> > >>> > > > http://ciscocert.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/ciscocert.cfg/php/enduser/std_alp.php > >>> ? > >>> p_sid=*_D94Vnj > >>> > >>> No mention of any changes to the written to be found there as yet... > >>> > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On > >>> Behalf Of > >>> hanan > >>> Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 1:04 AM > >>> To: ccielab@groupstudy.com > >>> Subject: Changes to CCIE Lab and Written Exam Question Format and > > Scoring > >>> > >>> Changes to CCIE Lab and Written Exam Question Format and Scoring > >>> > >>> Effective February 1, 2009, Cisco will introduce a new type of > >>> question > >>> format to CCIE Routing and Switching lab exams. In addition to the > >>> live > >>> configuration scenarios, candidates will be asked a series of four > >>> or > > five > >>> open-ended questions, drawn from a pool of questions based on the > > material > >>> covered on the lab blueprint. No new topics are being added. The > >>> exams > > are > >>> not been increased in difficulty and the well-prepared candidate > >>> should > >>> have > >>> no trouble answering the questions. The length of the exam will > >>> remain > >>> eight > >>> hours. Candidates will need to achieve a passing score on both the > >>> open-ended questions and the lab portion in order to pass the lab > >>> and > >>> become > >>> certified. Other CCIE tracks will change over the next year, with > >>> exact > >>> dates announced in advance. > >>> > >>> > >>> Effective February 17th, 2009, candidates will also see two other > > changes > >>> in > >>> CCIE written exams. First, candidates will now be required to answer > > each > >>> question before moving on to the next question; candidates will no > > longer > >>> be > >>> allowed to skip a question and come back to it at a later time. > >>> Second, > >>> there will be an update to the score report. The overall exam > >>> score and > > the > >>> exam passing score will now be reported as a scaled score, on a > >>> scale > > from > >>> 300-1000. 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