From: Marko Milivojevic (markom@markom.info)
Date: Fri Jan 16 2009 - 21:59:16 ARST
Don't forget that there is another category of unprepared candidates.
Ones who simply count $1400 spent on an attempt in order to experience
the real environment and the actual difficulty of the lab.
When I went for my lab, I was going with that particular notion. I was
fully prepared, but I primarily wanted to see what's it all about. I
had no expectations of positive outcome.
It's a perfectly valid approach, IMHO. As long as your "weeding-out"
ouitlined below does not apply in subsequent attempts for that
candidate and "memo-labs" reflect the real thing, these people won't
be affected, as they are not really cheating.
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 21:06, Darby Weaver <ccie.weaver@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yes, the new interview questions are the least of a person's problems.
>
> Wait till the candidates who prepared using topologies and configs they may
> or may not have memorized are no longer present on the lab at all.
>
> Unless of course they fail or are perceived to have failed the verbal
> portion of the lab.
>
> 1. Real Candidates get the Real Labs
>
> 2. Candidates who failed the verbal get the what the labs they expected to
> see aka the "memorizes labs".
>
>
> I think its a total work of art.
>
> FYI - Cisco spent a good little penny about 6-7 months ago putting together
> a think-tank to make the late "memorization-proof".
> The biggest problem presented was how to stop anyone from simply memorizing
> one or more portions of the lab exam.
>
> So...
>
> 1. The Interview - Verbal.
> 2. Give the cheaters what they expect to see - They already failed the lab
> anyway.
> 3. Give the Real Candidates a Real Lab - They did not come with
> pre-conceived notions and so they will never know the difference in the
> first place.
>
> This means:
>
> 1. The gunmen or people who try to pass by memorization will shake their
> heads wondering why they failed.
> 2. The Real Lab Candidates will either pass or fail and will be none the
> wiser.
> 3. The lab exam will maintain its integrity and standing as the premier
> un-cheatable certification exam in the entire I.T. industry and the value of
> the CCIE is maintained.
>
> I think it is pure genius.
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