From: Valentine Amalu (vamalu@secnetng.com)
Date: Fri Jan 16 2009 - 16:00:58 ARST
Atlantaccie, nortic, Hun et al.
Seriously,
I joined GS in other to get encouragement and learn from other professionals
as I prepare for my CCIE lab exam. I cannot deny the level of Cisco
networking skill displayed by a lot of people in GS.
However, I cannot say the same for their bigoted and insensitive jibes at
people of non US or Western Europe nationality. Take for example, the
comments about scammers and Nigeria, or the snide comments about Arabs or
Chinese or Indians being the ones that cheat most at the lab. If I want to
indulge in ethno political flaming, I know where to go, and it should not be
GS. It's pretty obvious to me that smartness and stupidity can coexist.
I am Nigerian, no apologies, and i don't like anyone, no matter how
seemingly smart the person is to call me a scammer, directly or indirectly,
no not at all. Yes, there are scammers in Nigeria, just like there thieves
and murderers and hackers and all sorts of criminals in different countries.
I have seen enough of such in the US and UK, for example.
I will not allow anyone call me a scammer and just let it go. For all those
ignorant/stupid people that make such comments, maybe you live in paradise,
where everyone is perfect. Please let me know such a place ok.
GS moderators,
Like I said, if I want ethno political fights, I know where to go. I believe
you guys should let everyone on this forum know (or maybe remind people)
what this forum is all about. I don't know how long such bigoted comments
have been going on in GS, since I am just a few months old in GS, but I
would want to believe that it's not the norm.
Regards,
Valentine
-----Original Message-----
From: nortic @hackermail.com [mailto:nortic@hackermail.com]
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 1:06 PM
To: Atlanta CCIE; Valentine Amalu
Cc: Huan Pham; Scott M Vermillion; hanan; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: Changes to CCIE Lab and Written Exam Question Format and
Scoring
Do you have any other conceived perceptions you would like to share?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Atlanta CCIE" <atlantaccie@gmail.com>
> To: "Valentine Amalu" <vamalu@secnetng.com>
> Cc: "Huan Pham" <pnhuan@yahoo.com>, "Scott M Vermillion"
<scott_ccie_list@it-ag.com>, hanan <nouran@skynet.be>,
ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: Changes to CCIE Lab and Written Exam Question Format and
Scoring
> Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 18:02:59 -0500
>
>
> You are right. Not all nigerians are scammers but for some reason all
> scammers are nigerians :)
>
> On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 4:14 PM, Valentine Amalu
<vamalu@secnetng.com>wrote:
>
> > Hey,
> > Do you guys mind? There are Nigerians on the forum, and just incase you
> > don't know, we are not all scammers! Stcik to the issue at hand.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Valentine
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> > Huan
> > Pham
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 8:16 PM
> > To: Scott M Vermillion
> > Cc: hanan; <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > Subject: Re: Changes to CCIE Lab and Written Exam Question Format and
> > Scoring
> >
> > Yeah I see that now
> >
> > If this turns out not to be a hoax then by doing this type of
communication
> > practice, Cisco has greatly helped Negerian scammers in bluring the line
> > between true stories & hoaxes then ;)
> >
> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On 15/01/2009, at 6:58 AM, "Scott M Vermillion"
<scott_ccie_list@it-ag.com
> > >
> > wrote:
> >
> > Hi Huan,
> >
> > The problem is that if you go to www.cisco.com and then navigate to the
> > certification online support page (so that you can be confident you're
not
> > being directed to a bogus site), you will find a Q&A that confirms this
> > change and addresses a number of questions regarding it. The e-mail is
> > poorly worded, suggesting a hoax. Also, this is not in alignment with
> > Cisco's general practice of announcing changes six months out, further
> > raising suspicions (at least in some of us). However, unless someone
has
> > hacked Cisco's online cert support site, it appears to be authentic...
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Scott
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Huan Pham [mailto:pnhuan@yahoo.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 12:47 PM
> > To: Scott M Vermillion
> > Cc: hanan; <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > Subject: Re: Changes to CCIE Lab and Written Exam Question Format and
> > Scoring
> >
> > Can't agree more! It's a hoax
> >
> > Based on responses from this highly technical list, i guess Nigerean
> > scammers will continue to be able to make easy money by sending scam
> > emails!!!!
> >
> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On 15/01/2009, at 2:39 AM, "Scott M Vermillion"
<scott_ccie_list@it-ag.com
> > >
> > wrote:
> >
> > Have to admit that my initial reaction was that this must be a forged
> > e-mail
> > based on the following passage:
> >
> > "The exams are not been increased in difficulty..."
> >
> > Not exactly the kind of grammatical gymnastics you would expect to see
in
> > an
> > official communiqui from Cisco.
> >
> > However, there is now a Q&A session at the Online Support page:
> >
> >
http://ciscocert.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/ciscocert.cfg/php/enduser/std_alp.php
> > ?
> > p_sid=*_D94Vnj
> >
> > No mention of any changes to the written to be found there as yet...
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> > hanan
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 1:04 AM
> > To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Subject: Changes to CCIE Lab and Written Exam Question Format and
Scoring
> >
> > Changes to CCIE Lab and Written Exam Question Format and Scoring
> >
> > Effective February 1, 2009, Cisco will introduce a new type of question
> > format to CCIE Routing and Switching lab exams. In addition to the live
> > configuration scenarios, candidates will be asked a series of four or
five
> > open-ended questions, drawn from a pool of questions based on the
material
> > covered on the lab blueprint. No new topics are being added. The exams
are
> > not been increased in difficulty and the well-prepared candidate should
> > have
> > no trouble answering the questions. The length of the exam will remain
> > eight
> > hours. Candidates will need to achieve a passing score on both the
> > open-ended questions and the lab portion in order to pass the lab and
> > become
> > certified. Other CCIE tracks will change over the next year, with exact
> > dates announced in advance.
> >
> >
> > Effective February 17th, 2009, candidates will also see two other
changes
> > in
> > CCIE written exams. First, candidates will now be required to answer
each
> > question before moving on to the next question; candidates will no
longer
> > be
> > allowed to skip a question and come back to it at a later time. Second,
> > there will be an update to the score report. The overall exam score and
the
> > exam passing score will now be reported as a scaled score, on a scale
from
> > 300-1000. This change will not affect the difficulty of the current set
of
> > exams and will assure CCIE written exams will be consistent with Cisco's
> > other career certification exams.
> >
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