From: Jonny English (redkidneybeans@gmail.com)
Date: Wed Nov 26 2008 - 21:15:26 ARST
If you have an interview, the best way to throw the interviewer off is...
when the interviewer says what am I going to ask you for the technical part.
Just say, ask me anything you want. It really throws them off... I do this
at all my interviews :).
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 11:51 AM, Darby Weaver <ccie.weaver@gmail.com>wrote:
> Hey...
>
> If a CCIE cannot get past the "EASY" interview questions... and I don't
> mean just the ones asked here.
>
> I mean any questions asked at the interview (any interview)... then that
> CCIE whether or not how "hard or basic" the questions were, probably cannot
> do the job that the interview is for or will not be able to do the job at
> the level expected anyway.
>
> So that CCIE will probably not get the job and thus... 20,000 - 1 CCIE's to
> compete with for lucrative jobs on this planet.
>
> Next...
>
> No problem...
>
> I was reading Jeff Doyle TCP/IP Volume I 2nd Edition last night and in
> the forward he mentioned something to the effect of "Would you like fries
> with that?"
>
> So I guess if I have to interview a CCIE and he does not know what a hub
> is...
>
> My next question will be "What temperature do you cook french fries
> at?"... Now if his/her eyes light up with excitement and the hand goes
> up reflexively... I figured out what the CCIE is good at...
>
> If the CCIE gets up and walks out... maybe he/she has done some real
> networking somewhere.
>
>
> Sorry but unless you are a CCIE that has been there and done that and has
> moved "UP" in the organization... I'd expect a CCIE who interviews is
> probably coming from running a network of some size if not complexity.
> Thus... that person should know his A$$ from a Hole in the Ground.
>
> Now if that CCIE got that far - to make the interview in the first place,
> then I'd probably be having a talk with H.R. or finding myself a new
> recruiter.
>
> But that begs the question - what did the our CCIE's C.V. look like? Did
> he just wake up one day and say... I'm a CCIE. Or did he come from
> somewhere and do something prior to the interview.
>
> I mean even folks setting up Dynamips and using it solely to pass the lab
> need a certain amount of skills to even do that. You'd think.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 11/26/08, shiran guez <shiranp3@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> With all due respect to you, to know how to configure is not what it mean
>> to
>> be a CCIE.
>> In real world no one will give you a set of task's configure x,y,z.
>>
>> your manager or your employer will come to you with a problem or a need
>> that
>> he is facing usually it will be very obscure and you will have to
>> know how to analyze his need so the outcome will be to his satisfaction
>> where usually time and money are key points and to know how to get to his
>> need without wasting either his time or money this is where you are being
>> test in real life and this is what is expected from a real CCIE.
>>
>> so I am sorry but don't say that you can configure as my 1.5year old sun
>> can
>> configure HSRP but it doesn't mean he is an expert.
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 12:47 PM, Supreme Nkosi <supreme.nkosi@gmail.com
>> >wrote:
>>
>> > Being a CCIE doesnt mean that you should know or remember everything but
>> > what matters is that you know where to find the answers for what you
>> dont
>> > know or cant remember :)
>> >
>> > I dont think that all of us , regardless of the certs we currently have
>> > will
>> > still remember all our N+,CCNA,CCNP,CCDA etc stuff :)
>> >
>> > I remember the last interview I went for, i was asked to explain the
>> > difference between VRRP and HSRP in detail but I couldnt remember
>> > (ignorance
>> > is bliss) but the funny part of it is i can get either of the two
>> > configured/working with great ease :)
>> >
>> > So what did i learn - that for what i cant remember, do not understand
>> or
>> > do
>> > not know, i should know where to find the answers and believe me you,
>> this
>> > happens to most of us at one stage or another in our jobs :)
>> >
>> > My two cents worth :)
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 5:20 AM, Muhammad Nasim <
>> muhammad.nasim@gmail.com
>> > >wrote:
>> >
>> > > Agree WHY THE PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO SAVE CCIE IF HE DOES NOT KNOW THE
>> > > ANSWERS.
>> > >
>> > > OK OK I agree to some extent that these are not 100% CCIE QUESTIONS
>> but
>> > to
>> > > be honest WHY THE HELL CCIE ARE EXPECTING 8 OR 10 K IF THEY CAN NOT
>> > ANSWERS
>> > > WHICH WORTH LESS THEN 1000$ SALARY per month.
>> > >
>> > > I am very very sorry to say after hearing the guys that these are not
>> > CCIE
>> > > questions.
>> > >
>> > > The market is awful and people are supporting it it DOUBLE AWFUL
>> > >
>> > > HAPPY GETTING NUMBERS AND CLAIMING 10$K or more as you now know CCIE
>> > > ANSWERS
>> > > (WHAT A TOUGH LUCK)
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > 2008/11/25 Jonny English <redkidneybeans@gmail.com>
>> > >
>> > > > I think its all the fish they eat in China. Good for the brain mate,
>> > > that's
>> > > > why Chinese people are so smart and good at Math.
>> > > >
>> > > > On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 2:39 PM, Mohammad Zahid Saeed <
>> > > > mzsaeedVING@gmail.com <mzsaeed@gmail.com>>wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > As far as question is concerned, it sounds very strange to me if
>> some
>> > > one
>> > > > > has CCIE and he doesn't understand the difference between hub and
>> > > switch?
>> > > > > How you can recommend something if you don't have the answer WHY?
>> And
>> > > if
>> > > > > some one says HUB, I know I am supporting network in Canada with
>> > D-Link
>> > > > hubs
>> > > > > :):):) And I am not recommending them replacing because I am
>> scared
>> > > they
>> > > > > will ask me WHY? :)
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Secondly, I heard and I can be wrong, in Beijing every week 20
>> people
>> > > > pass
>> > > > > CCIE, and in RTP 4-5, now I can be wrong, but whats special in
>> > Beijing?
>> > > > (No
>> > > > > offence to any one no matter if you are US or from China, we are
>> all
>> > > > humans
>> > > > > at the first point)
>> > > > >
>> > > > > And I am surpirised some time to see people, who say "I started in
>> > Jan
>> > > 07
>> > > > > and passed in Sept 07" When I know people who spent 5 years, now
>> > either
>> > > > they
>> > > > > are too "Sharp" or others are too "dumb" :):):) No offence again
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Regards,
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Mohammad Z Saeed
>> > > > >
>> > > > > --------------------------------------------------
>> > > > > From: "Cisco Godfather" <cisco_godfather@hotmail.com>
>> > > > > Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 7:50 PM
>> > > > > To: <ratlamwala.huzefa@gmail.com>; <nkionlab@yahoo.co.uk>
>> > > > > Cc: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
>> > > > > Subject: RE: CCIE True Interview Story
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Hey Mr. Huzefa,
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> What makes you think that people in Middle East, India and China
>> are
>> > > > >> Booming with CCIEs without any real-life experience??
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> You need to stop watching FOX News dood!
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> You have to be carefull about what you say here, and respect
>> others
>> > > who
>> > > > >> might be the reason behinde your success one day!!!
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> Wonder if all Americans, British, Canadaians and Austrailan born
>> > with
>> > > a
>> > > > >> router or switch in his hand!!!
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> silly comment!! infact disrespectfull one!
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> Cisco_Godfather
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >>> Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 23:17:31 +0300> From:
>> > > > ratlamwala.huzefa@gmail.com>
>> > > > >>> To: nkionlab@yahoo.co.uk> Subject: Re: CCIE True Interview
>> Story>
>> > > CC:
>> > > > >>> ccielab@groupstudy.com> > I feel the same pain, people in
>> Middle
>> > > East,
>> > > > >>> India and China are booming> with CCIEs without any real-life
>> > > > experience.> >
>> > > > >>> > On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 11:09 PM, Nki <nkionlab@yahoo.co.uk>
>> > > wrote:>
>> > > > >
>> > > > >>> > I interviewed this CCIE from Saudi. He just became one this
>> > > september
>> > > > and>
>> > > > >>> > his> > name is Ali. From basic switching and routing
>> questions,
>> > he
>> > > > did
>> > > > >>> very poorly> > in> > his answers.The one that really stumped I
>> and
>> > my
>> > > > >>> manager was the following> > question.Q. Ali you have been
>> assigned
>> > a
>> > > > ticket
>> > > > >>> to install a Cisco router> > for> > Internet connection. The
>> > customer
>> > > > site
>> > > > >>> have 10 users, with a 24 port hub> > installed.The network is
>> > > operating
>> > > > well
>> > > > >>> with no errors. After you complete> > your WAN router install,
>> what
>> > > > >>> recommendation can you make to the customer> > concerning their
>> > > HUB.A.
>> > > > I
>> > > > >>> will ask them to rplace it with !
>> > > > >>>
>> > > > >> a switchQ. Ali> > what> > is your reason for this
>> recommendation.Ali
>> > > > could
>> > > > >> not come up with one. Here> > I> > am a dual CCIE sitting with my
>> > > boss,
>> > > > I
>> > > > >> felt my number shrink in> > embarassment.B What is going on here,
>> > are
>> > > > guys
>> > > > >> out there buying their CCIE?> > If> > they are at least read the
>> > study
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