From: Darby Weaver (ccie.weaver@gmail.com)
Date: Wed Nov 26 2008 - 20:51:15 ARST
Hey...
If a CCIE cannot get past the "EASY" interview questions... and I don't
mean just the ones asked here.
I mean any questions asked at the interview (any interview)... then that
CCIE whether or not how "hard or basic" the questions were, probably cannot
do the job that the interview is for or will not be able to do the job at
the level expected anyway.
So that CCIE will probably not get the job and thus... 20,000 - 1 CCIE's to
compete with for lucrative jobs on this planet.
Next...
No problem...
I was reading Jeff Doyle TCP/IP Volume I 2nd Edition last night and in
the forward he mentioned something to the effect of "Would you like fries
with that?"
So I guess if I have to interview a CCIE and he does not know what a hub
is...
My next question will be "What temperature do you cook french fries
at?"... Now if his/her eyes light up with excitement and the hand goes
up reflexively... I figured out what the CCIE is good at...
If the CCIE gets up and walks out... maybe he/she has done some real
networking somewhere.
Sorry but unless you are a CCIE that has been there and done that and has
moved "UP" in the organization... I'd expect a CCIE who interviews is
probably coming from running a network of some size if not complexity.
Thus... that person should know his A$$ from a Hole in the Ground.
Now if that CCIE got that far - to make the interview in the first place,
then I'd probably be having a talk with H.R. or finding myself a new
recruiter.
But that begs the question - what did the our CCIE's C.V. look like? Did he
just wake up one day and say... I'm a CCIE. Or did he come from somewhere
and do something prior to the interview.
I mean even folks setting up Dynamips and using it solely to pass the lab
need a certain amount of skills to even do that. You'd think.
On 11/26/08, shiran guez <shiranp3@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> With all due respect to you, to know how to configure is not what it mean
> to
> be a CCIE.
> In real world no one will give you a set of task's configure x,y,z.
>
> your manager or your employer will come to you with a problem or a need
> that
> he is facing usually it will be very obscure and you will have to
> know how to analyze his need so the outcome will be to his satisfaction
> where usually time and money are key points and to know how to get to his
> need without wasting either his time or money this is where you are being
> test in real life and this is what is expected from a real CCIE.
>
> so I am sorry but don't say that you can configure as my 1.5year old sun
> can
> configure HSRP but it doesn't mean he is an expert.
>
> On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 12:47 PM, Supreme Nkosi <supreme.nkosi@gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Being a CCIE doesnt mean that you should know or remember everything but
> > what matters is that you know where to find the answers for what you dont
> > know or cant remember :)
> >
> > I dont think that all of us , regardless of the certs we currently have
> > will
> > still remember all our N+,CCNA,CCNP,CCDA etc stuff :)
> >
> > I remember the last interview I went for, i was asked to explain the
> > difference between VRRP and HSRP in detail but I couldnt remember
> > (ignorance
> > is bliss) but the funny part of it is i can get either of the two
> > configured/working with great ease :)
> >
> > So what did i learn - that for what i cant remember, do not understand or
> > do
> > not know, i should know where to find the answers and believe me you,
> this
> > happens to most of us at one stage or another in our jobs :)
> >
> > My two cents worth :)
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 5:20 AM, Muhammad Nasim <
> muhammad.nasim@gmail.com
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > Agree WHY THE PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO SAVE CCIE IF HE DOES NOT KNOW THE
> > > ANSWERS.
> > >
> > > OK OK I agree to some extent that these are not 100% CCIE QUESTIONS but
> > to
> > > be honest WHY THE HELL CCIE ARE EXPECTING 8 OR 10 K IF THEY CAN NOT
> > ANSWERS
> > > WHICH WORTH LESS THEN 1000$ SALARY per month.
> > >
> > > I am very very sorry to say after hearing the guys that these are not
> > CCIE
> > > questions.
> > >
> > > The market is awful and people are supporting it it DOUBLE AWFUL
> > >
> > > HAPPY GETTING NUMBERS AND CLAIMING 10$K or more as you now know CCIE
> > > ANSWERS
> > > (WHAT A TOUGH LUCK)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 2008/11/25 Jonny English <redkidneybeans@gmail.com>
> > >
> > > > I think its all the fish they eat in China. Good for the brain mate,
> > > that's
> > > > why Chinese people are so smart and good at Math.
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 2:39 PM, Mohammad Zahid Saeed <
> > > > mzsaeedVING@gmail.com <mzsaeed@gmail.com>>wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > As far as question is concerned, it sounds very strange to me if
> some
> > > one
> > > > > has CCIE and he doesn't understand the difference between hub and
> > > switch?
> > > > > How you can recommend something if you don't have the answer WHY?
> And
> > > if
> > > > > some one says HUB, I know I am supporting network in Canada with
> > D-Link
> > > > hubs
> > > > > :):):) And I am not recommending them replacing because I am scared
> > > they
> > > > > will ask me WHY? :)
> > > > >
> > > > > Secondly, I heard and I can be wrong, in Beijing every week 20
> people
> > > > pass
> > > > > CCIE, and in RTP 4-5, now I can be wrong, but whats special in
> > Beijing?
> > > > (No
> > > > > offence to any one no matter if you are US or from China, we are
> all
> > > > humans
> > > > > at the first point)
> > > > >
> > > > > And I am surpirised some time to see people, who say "I started in
> > Jan
> > > 07
> > > > > and passed in Sept 07" When I know people who spent 5 years, now
> > either
> > > > they
> > > > > are too "Sharp" or others are too "dumb" :):):) No offence again
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > >
> > > > > Mohammad Z Saeed
> > > > >
> > > > > --------------------------------------------------
> > > > > From: "Cisco Godfather" <cisco_godfather@hotmail.com>
> > > > > Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 7:50 PM
> > > > > To: <ratlamwala.huzefa@gmail.com>; <nkionlab@yahoo.co.uk>
> > > > > Cc: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > > > > Subject: RE: CCIE True Interview Story
> > > > >
> > > > > Hey Mr. Huzefa,
> > > > >>
> > > > >> What makes you think that people in Middle East, India and China
> are
> > > > >> Booming with CCIEs without any real-life experience??
> > > > >>
> > > > >> You need to stop watching FOX News dood!
> > > > >>
> > > > >> You have to be carefull about what you say here, and respect
> others
> > > who
> > > > >> might be the reason behinde your success one day!!!
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Wonder if all Americans, British, Canadaians and Austrailan born
> > with
> > > a
> > > > >> router or switch in his hand!!!
> > > > >>
> > > > >> silly comment!! infact disrespectfull one!
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Cisco_Godfather
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 23:17:31 +0300> From:
> > > > ratlamwala.huzefa@gmail.com>
> > > > >>> To: nkionlab@yahoo.co.uk> Subject: Re: CCIE True Interview
> Story>
> > > CC:
> > > > >>> ccielab@groupstudy.com> > I feel the same pain, people in Middle
> > > East,
> > > > >>> India and China are booming> with CCIEs without any real-life
> > > > experience.> >
> > > > >>> > On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 11:09 PM, Nki <nkionlab@yahoo.co.uk>
> > > wrote:>
> > > > >
> > > > >>> > I interviewed this CCIE from Saudi. He just became one this
> > > september
> > > > and>
> > > > >>> > his> > name is Ali. From basic switching and routing questions,
> > he
> > > > did
> > > > >>> very poorly> > in> > his answers.The one that really stumped I
> and
> > my
> > > > >>> manager was the following> > question.Q. Ali you have been
> assigned
> > a
> > > > ticket
> > > > >>> to install a Cisco router> > for> > Internet connection. The
> > customer
> > > > site
> > > > >>> have 10 users, with a 24 port hub> > installed.The network is
> > > operating
> > > > well
> > > > >>> with no errors. After you complete> > your WAN router install,
> what
> > > > >>> recommendation can you make to the customer> > concerning their
> > > HUB.A.
> > > > I
> > > > >>> will ask them to rplace it with !
> > > > >>>
> > > > >> a switchQ. Ali> > what> > is your reason for this
> recommendation.Ali
> > > > could
> > > > >> not come up with one. Here> > I> > am a dual CCIE sitting with my
> > > boss,
> > > > I
> > > > >> felt my number shrink in> > embarassment.B What is going on here,
> > are
> > > > guys
> > > > >> out there buying their CCIE?> > If> > they are at least read the
> > study
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