From: Joseph Brunner (joe@affirmedsystems.com)
Date: Mon Nov 24 2008 - 20:05:54 ARST
The questions I got showed me they were after a person with both technical
maturity and the knowledge of best practices required to build an enterprise
level network.
Any little idiot with a testking can rattle off ospf timers, network types,
lsa types, packet types, etc.
A real expert can remember all those things, know how they really work, and
be able to troubleshoot and design using the protocols from layer 1 to 7.
That is probably why they asked me to also interpret the output of the show
ip bgp summary & show ip ospf database but did not ask me what are the
default bgp timers, ospf timers on physical frame-relay, etc.
As a CCIE I have all the routing, switching and design experience from years
of find solutions to outages, and building new networks from the ground up.
Those were great answers Pavel, clear, concise and to the point. We both
know you *don't* put ios acls on an msfc in a high bandwidth network and
expect line rate performance, but do you know how MANY CCIE's I have seen
load the msfc with acl's like it's no big deal????? (most)
-Joe
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From: Pavel Bykov [mailto:slidersv@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 4:45 PM
To: Hoogen
Cc: Joseph Brunner; Nki; ccielab@groupstudy.com; Patrick J Greene
Subject: Re: CCIE True Interview Story
VSS? Now that's OT :)
It's coming along nicely. Except the service modules of course, but support
for that is coming - 4 new service modules supported soon.
Customers like it.
On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 10:43 PM, Hoogen <hoogen82@gmail.com> wrote:
I don't think Joseph was ask questions pertaining to CCIE-related.. but
questions company would expect a CCIE to know.. and I think most people who
work with 6500 would know what it means while working with multiple images.
I think this is going completely OT now.. we are just trying to learn here..
instead now we are fighting to know who knows best in 6500..
Just out of curiosity though.. have people begun to use the VSS??
-Hoogen
On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 1:32 PM, Pavel Bykov <slidersv@gmail.com> wrote:
Sorry Joseph, but this is not CCIE-related.
One of the Cisco courses I teach is CAT6KS, or "Catalyst 6500 Implementation
for Data Center Buss. Solut." So I could easily answer those questions waken
up at 5am after alcohol-heavy party.
CCIE never teaches you hardware architecture, which the course I mentioned
does.
From my experience, questions asked only represent the knowledge of the
subject pertaining to the questions asked.
If I asked you a question "In the output of "show bootvar" command, what
does the number after IOS image mean? e.g. "c2800nm-advipservicesk9-mz.124-*
8.bin*,2" would you know the answer exactly that instance? And how much
about you would that tell me?
On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 10:08 PM, Joseph Brunner
<joe@affirmedsystems.com>wrote:
> The best interviews I have seen come from the (former) financial sector;
> The best firms a few years ago (Merrill, Morgan) always ask for hardware
> and
> IOS architecture questions from "CCIE" level guys...
>
> What is crossbar switching?
> What is DCEF?
> How does DCEF work?
> What benefit does a fabric enabled module have?
> What are some reasons traffic would result in a CEF punt? Or a glean adj?
> How could you prevent these issues? Would they affect performance?
>
> You are building a new datacenter, what line card would use for 10Gbps to
a
> san for a 6509-E, etc. Why would you use that line card? What QOS
structure
> do the ports offer?
>
> Why does the SUP-720 have 2x40Gbps per blade?
>
> How does the FWSM work? How does the CSM work?
>
> What is the different between shared and redundant power in the 6509-E
> chassis?
>
> They also showed printouts of "show ip bgp summary" and "show ip ospf
> database" and asked the candidate to explain in as much detail as possible
> what is going on...
>
> They were really really good technical interviews!!!
>
> I was so impressed with the interviews I knew they were serious. I felt
> challenged and required before we even talked money...
>
> -Joe
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Nki
> Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 4:01 PM
> To: ccielab@groupstudy.com; Patrick J Greene
> Subject: RE: CCIE True Interview Story
>
> if you read carefully I had mentioned I asked him basic routing and
> switching
> question and he did poorly in all questions. The question posted here was
> the
> last I asked. I can tell you now that most people reading this have not
> forgotten why you would use a switch in comparison to a hub. i think this
> was
> thought at the CCNA level
> B
>
>
> --- On Mon, 24/11/08, Patrick J Greene <patrickg@layer8llc.com> wrote:
>
> From: Patrick J Greene <patrickg@layer8llc.com>
> Subject: RE: CCIE True Interview Story
> To: "ccielab@groupstudy.com" <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> Date: Monday, 24 November, 2008, 8:28 PM
>
> In all fairness, what are you trying to evaluate, his experience or
> specific
> tasks oriented around the knowledge he should have retained through his
> CCIE
> journey? In my opinion, your question is quite vague and does not assess
> his
> CCIE background. If you want to test his CCIE prowess ask him how he
might
> secure the environment so no devices can talk to each other but the router
> interface and you don't use ACL's. As you know, that is what the CCIE
> tests for, how to accomplish task-a,b and c given requirements and
> restrictions
> x,y, and z. In y opinion I would re-evaluate the interview questions.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Nki
> Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 3:09 PM
> To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: CCIE True Interview Story
>
> I interviewed this CCIE from Saudi. He just became one this september and
> his
> name is Ali. From basic switching and routing questions, he did very
poorly
> in
> his answers.The one that really stumped I and my manager was the following
> question.Q. Ali you have been assigned a ticket to install a Cisco router
> for
> Internet connection. The customer site have 10 users, with a 24 port hub
> installed.The network is operating well with no errors. After you complet
> your WAN router install, what recommendation can you make to the customer
> concerning their HUB.A. I will ask them to rplace it with a switchQ. Ali
> what
> is your reason for this recommendation.Ali could not come up with one.
Here
> I
> am a dual CCIE sitting with my boss, I felt my number shrink in
> embarassment.B What is going on here, are guys out there buying their
CCIE?
> If
> they are at least read the study guides.B B
>
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