From: Farhan Anwar (farhan.anwar@gmail.com)
Date: Sun Nov 23 2008 - 12:15:21 ARST
Nasim,
21k can be a good figure in saudia because of lower inflation, but not in
UAE for a ccie i believe. Most of my friends (CCIE's) are making in between
25k and 40k, and it does depends on the Company, Experience and Emirate.
On 11/23/08, Muhammad Nasim <muhammad.nasim@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> let say X person is getting 108,000 US& per year that would be 9 thousand
> US $ per month
>
> 1 USD = 3.6710
>
> 9,000 $ = 33,039 aed
>
> This 33 or 34 is a very very good figure . I should say exceptional now a
> days as the CCIE numbers are growing.
>
> 21K and 22 K (AED) is an average salary per month. Which is also difficult
> to find.
>
>
> Based on the number of years the salry can be 50K AED BUT it is true for
> more then 10, Years of expereicen
>
>
> I hope cleared it out ; 0
>
>
> 2008/11/23 Mithun Bhat <fourthdan@gmail.com>
>
>> wait, if i understand correctly, you're saying that a CCIE in the UAE gets
>> 21k AED (dubai currency) a month?
>> That can't be right. I have heard that CCIE's get double that.
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 12:15 PM, Muhammad Nasim <
>> muhammad.nasim@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Agree
>>>
>>> 2008/11/23 Farrukh Haroon <farrukhharoon@gmail.com>
>>>
>>> > If this is what Farhan is getting, then its MUCH higher than the UAE
>>> > market.
>>> >
>>> > The market (specially for RnS CCIEs) is way lower than that. Its more
>>> in
>>> > the 60/70K range.
>>> >
>>> > Regards
>>> >
>>> > Farrukh
>>> > On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 5:38 AM, darth router <
>>> darklordrouter@gmail.com>wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> over 100k tax free? I'd stay where your at. In fact, hook me up with a
>>> job
>>> >> :)
>>> >>
>>> >> On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 10:18 AM, Farhan Anwar <
>>> farhan.anwar@gmail.com
>>> >> >wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> > Darby, would you please highlight, the problems, because the only
>>> reason
>>> >> i
>>> >> > was considering to move to US is growth and good, projects. I make
>>> more
>>> >> > than
>>> >> > 100,000 USD tax free, but with all the problems listed above. Moving
>>> to
>>> >> US
>>> >> > even after the recession is over and the market stability is
>>> regained,
>>> >> is
>>> >> > that a good move or not.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 5:05 PM, Muhammad Nasim <
>>> >> muhammad.nasim@gmail.com
>>> >> > >wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> > > Really are there people in US/Europe who are also badly stuck
>>> w.r.t
>>> >> > growth.
>>> >> > >
>>> >> > >
>>> >> > > If this is the case I am satisfied : )
>>> >> > >
>>> >> > >
>>> >> > >
>>> >> > > 2008/11/22 Darby Weaver <ccie.weaver@gmail.com>
>>> >> > >
>>> >> > > I know many engineers in the USA facing similar dilemmas,
>>> >> circumstances,
>>> >> > >> and
>>> >> > >> conditions typically for a lot less salary.
>>> >> > >>
>>> >> > >>
>>> >> > >>
>>> >> > >>
>>> >> > >>
>>> >> > >> On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 6:10 AM, Farhan Anwar <
>>> >> farhan.anwar@gmail.com
>>> >> > >> >wrote:
>>> >> > >>
>>> >> > >> > Hi All,
>>> >> > >> > I am working in the UAE, and as far as job options are
>>> concerned
>>> >> being
>>> >> > a
>>> >> > >> > CCIE, you don't have any problems for job, but i do agree some
>>> >> > companies
>>> >> > >> > have freezed their hiring because of the global economic
>>> slowdown.
>>> >> But
>>> >> > >> the
>>> >> > >> > effect here is minimal or not yet started in full swing :),
>>> >> specially
>>> >> > in
>>> >> > >> oil
>>> >> > >> > rich abu dhabi emirate.
>>> >> > >> >
>>> >> > >> > The place is good with unlimited and unique entertainment,
>>> leasure
>>> >> and
>>> >> > >> > shopping options. Safety is not an issue. Cars are cheap, like
>>> >> bmw's
>>> >> > and
>>> >> > >> > range-rovers are mostly the favorites. Fuel is cheap, almost
>>> 2.5
>>> >> USD
>>> >> > a
>>> >> > >> > gallon.
>>> >> > >> >
>>> >> > >> > Technically speaking, the problem is most of the people you
>>> >> interact
>>> >> > are
>>> >> > >> > not of technical background but they are sitting with extremely
>>> >> > >> technical
>>> >> > >> > designations and in the end you get frustrated that where the
>>> hell
>>> >> you
>>> >> > >> are
>>> >> > >> > stuck. Specially in Network Design and Security.
>>> >> > >> >
>>> >> > >> > I have faced some problems when i moved in here and this would
>>> also
>>> >> > >> answer
>>> >> > >> > why now i am trying to move onto the European or US market, let
>>> me
>>> >> > share
>>> >> > >> > with you the problems.
>>> >> > >> >
>>> >> > >> >
>>> >> > >> > - Technical Growth gets stuck, because i barely find any
>>> time
>>> >> free
>>> >> > to
>>> >> > >> > study as the time gets wasted in either commuting or
>>> >> traffic-jams.
>>> >> > >> > - On the job, learning is limited as the work is repeated
>>> most
>>> >> of
>>> >> > the
>>> >> > >> > time.
>>> >> > >> > - Most of the projects, even the smaller ones have uncapped
>>> >> budgets
>>> >> > >> > which defeats the purpose of optimization. For example an
>>> >> average
>>> >> > >> company
>>> >> > >> > would not have any problems buying up Bluecoat proxysg 8100,
>>> >> even
>>> >> > if
>>> >> > >> they
>>> >> > >> > dont haveany requirements for it.
>>> >> > >> >
>>> >> > >> >
>>> >> > >> > - Traffic, on an average 2 - 4 hours per day you have to get
>>> >> stuck.
>>> >> > >> In
>>> >> > >> > my opinion, the time you are spending on street is wasted as
>>> its
>>> >> > not
>>> >> > >> given
>>> >> > >> > to work or family. In this case, we usually work 8 hours,
>>> may be
>>> >> 10
>>> >> > >> hours
>>> >> > >> > some times, get 8 hours sleep which barely leaves sometime
>>> being
>>> >> > >> spent with
>>> >> > >> > the family.
>>> >> > >> > - You can't find the accommodation in the house-allowance
>>> the
>>> >> > company
>>> >> > >> > gives you. For doing some saving you have to move either to
>>> some
>>> >> > >> other
>>> >> > >> > emirate and waste more time or move into the accommodation
>>> that
>>> >> > takes
>>> >> > >> 50% of
>>> >> > >> > your salary in advance for the full year.
>>> >> > >> > - Since their is no train system yet introduced, every expat
>>> is
>>> >> > >> buying
>>> >> > >> > a car as first priority which is creating traffic, parking
>>> and
>>> >> > >> saturation
>>> >> > >> > issues.
>>> >> > >> > - Although there is no Tax on the income but you end up
>>> saving
>>> >> the
>>> >> > >> same
>>> >> > >> > amount of money which you would save in other regions.
>>> >> > >> > - The Internet access is still immature and highly dominated
>>> by
>>> >> a
>>> >> > >> > single player, the average dsl speeds avaiable are 256k,
>>> 512k
>>> >> and
>>> >> > 1M,
>>> >> > >> at the
>>> >> > >> > cost of 70 USD per month for 512k with extremely limited
>>> upload
>>> >> of
>>> >> > >> 128k.
>>> >> > >> >
>>> >> > >> >
>>> >> > >> > Thats all i can think of right now, in the end, it is totally
>>> my
>>> >> > >> personal
>>> >> > >> > opinion and some people would agree and some may disagree.
>>> >> > >> >
>>> >> > >> >
>>> >> > >> > On 11/22/08, Darby Weaver <ccie.weaver@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> > >> >>
>>> >> > >> >> Some people may be having a hiring freeze and others can't
>>> fill
>>> >> some
>>> >> > >> >> positions. It's a rough battle.
>>> >> > >> >>
>>> >> > >> >>
>>> >> > >> >>
>>> >> > >> >>
>>> >> > >> >> On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 4:04 PM, Marko Milivojevic <
>>> >> > markom@markom.info
>>> >> > >> >> >wrote:
>>> >> > >> >>
>>> >> > >> >>
>>> >> > >> >> > Aren't they, like pretty much the rest of the world, in a
>>> hiring
>>> >> > >> pause
>>> >> > >> >> now?
>>> >> > >> >> > :-)
>>> >> > >> >> >
>>> >> > >> >> > On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 12:51, Gary Duncanson
>>> >> > >> >> > <garyduncanson@btinternet.com> wrote:
>>> >> > >> >> > > Dubai rocks.
>>> >> > >> >> > >
>>> >> > >> >> > > Any interesting jobs out there unicast me.
>>> >> > >> >> > >
>>> >> > >> >> > > Regards
>>> >> > >> >> > > Gary
>>> >> > >> >> > > ----- Original Message ----- From: <sheherezada@gmail.com
>>> >
>>> >> > >> >> > > To: "Cisco certification" <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
>>> >> > >> >> > > Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 8:46 AM
>>> >> > >> >> > > Subject: OT: CCIE Salary Survey
>>> >> > >> >> > >
>>> >> > >> >> > >
>>> >> > >> >> > >> Both Cisco and IBM are moving their EMEA headquarters to
>>> >> Dubai,
>>> >> > as
>>> >> > >> I
>>> >> > >> >> > >> have heard. So no need to nominate someone.
>>> >> > >> >> > >>
>>> >> > >> >> > >> Mihai
>>> >> > >> >> > >>
>>> >> > >> >> > >> On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 4:43 PM, Tony Varriale
>>> >> > >> >> > >> <tvarriale@flamboyaninc.com> wrote:
>>> >> > >> >> > >>>
>>> >> > >> >> > >>> Care to share your list? I have not seen one high
>>> profile
>>> >> exec
>>> >> > >> make
>>> >> > >> >> a
>>> >> > >> >> > >>> public statement supporting yours (and I don't know of
>>> any
>>> >> > living
>>> >> > >> >> > there).
>>> >> > >> >> > >>>
>>> >> > >> >> > >>> -----Original Message-----
>>> >> > >> >> > >>> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:
>>> nobody@groupstudy.com]
>>> >> On
>>> >> > >> >> Behalf
>>> >> > >> >> > Of
>>> >> > >> >> > >>> Darby Weaver
>>> >> > >> >> > >>> Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 8:36 AM
>>> >> > >> >> > >>> To: Felix Nkansah
>>> >> > >> >> > >>> Cc: Muhammad Nasim; Jonny English; Administrator; Cyrus;
>>> >> Larry
>>> >> > >> >> > Letterman
>>> >> > >> >> > >>> (lletterm); Scott Morris; Joseph Brunner; Huzefa;
>>> >> > >> >> > ccielab@groupstudy.com
>>> >> > >> >> > >>> Subject: Re: CCIE Salary Survey
>>> >> > >> >> > >>>
>>> >> > >> >> > >>> Think of it like this....
>>> >> > >> >> > >>>
>>> >> > >> >> > >>> Most super US executives who can... do live or plan to
>>> move
>>> >> to
>>> >> > >> >> Dubai,
>>> >> > >> >> > >>> the
>>> >> > >> >> > >>> Internet City or something like that.
>>> >> > >> >> > >>>
>>> >> > >> >> > >>> It's not what you see on TV, it's Ultra-Modern. Makes
>>> >> cities
>>> >> > in
>>> >> > >> New
>>> >> > >> >> > York
>>> >> > >> >> > >>> and California look like the old west.
>>> >> > >> >> > >>>
>>> >> > >> >> > >>> Ignorance is bliss.
>>> >> > >> >> > >>>
>>> >> > >> >> > >>>
>>> >> > >> >> > >>> On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 3:53 AM, Felix Nkansah
>>> >> > >> >> > >>> <felixnkansah@gmail.com>wrote:
>>> >> > >> >> > >>>
>>> >> > >> >> > >>>> Hi,
>>> >> > >> >> > >>>>
>>> >> > >> >> > >>>> I have been to Dubai a couple of times.
>>> >> > >> >> > >>>> It's been rated by some US and UK mags as the most
>>> peaceful
>>> >> > >> place
>>> >> > >> >> on
>>> >> > >> >> > >>>> earth
>>> >> > >> >> > >>>> for ten consecutive years. I mean it.
>>> >> > >> >> > >>>>
>>> >> > >> >> > >>>> At least you're not going to hear of car thefts or
>>> >> robberies.
>>> >> > I
>>> >> > >> >> feel
>>> >> > >> >> > >>>> safer
>>> >> > >> >> > >>>> when walking out there.
>>> >> > >> >> > >>>>
>>> >> > >> >> > >>>> Of course, everything stands out for argument, but this
>>> is
>>> >> my
>>> >> > >> >> personal
>>> >> > >> >> > >>>> observation of Dubai.
>>> >> > >> >> > >>>>
>>> >> > >> >> > >>>> Only that things are too expensive for my liking.
>>> >> > >> >> > >>>>
>>> >> > >> >> > >>>> Felix
>>> >> > >> >> > >>>>
>>> >> > >> >> > >>>>
>>> >> > >> >> > >>>> Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net
>>> >> > >> >> > >>>>
>>> >> > >> >> > >>>>
>>> >> > >> >> >
>>> >> > >>
>>> >>
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>>> >> > >> >> > >>>
>>> >> > >> >>
>>> >> >
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>>> >> > >>
>>> >>
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>>> >> > >> >>
>>> >> > >> >>
>>> >> > >> >>
>>> >> > >> >>
>>> >> > >> >>
>>> >> > >> >>
>>> >> > >> >
>>> >> > >> >
>>> >> > >> > --
>>> >> > >> > Farhan.
>>> >> > >>
>>> >> > >>
>>> >> > >> Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net
>>> >> > >>
>>> >> > >>
>>> >>
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>>> >> > >>
>>> >> > >>
>>> >> > >>
>>> >> > >>
>>> >> > >>
>>> >> > >>
>>> >> > >>
>>> >> > >
>>> >> > >
>>> >> > > --
>>> >> > > Muhammad Nasim
>>> >> > > Network Engineer
>>> >> > > Saudi Arabia
>>> >> > >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > --
>>> >> > Syed Farhan A. Hussain
>>> >> > CCIE #19871
>>> >> > Senior Network Consultant
>>> >> > www.farhananwar.com
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
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>>> >> >
>>> >> >
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>>> >>
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>>> >>
>>> >>
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>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Muhammad Nasim
>>> Network Engineer
>>> Saudi Arabia
>>>
>>>
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>>>
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>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Muhammad Nasim
> Network Engineer
> Saudi Arabia
>
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