From: Mark Sh (cciegroupst@gmail.com)
Date: Sun Nov 23 2008 - 08:15:53 ARST
guys this is the my email (unicasted to Narbik) ..
actually I would buy them but when I saw you mentioning them it was the
first time I hear about it ..
when I googled it I found them and I downloaded them unknowingly ..
so I am sorry for that ..
I appreciate your help ..
END
Narbik please read it carefully and if you can not understand it .. then
take your broken A*S*S* to the nearest communications skill class (and take
it twice )
On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 10:51 AM, Jonny English <redkidneybeans@gmail.com>wrote:
> He was even asking someone for there CCIE cert in another post LOL...
>
> On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 8:22 PM, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk@gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Well, let me share something with you guys, Mr. Mark Sh with his broken
> > English that we were joking and some of us felt sorry for him, is not
> what
> > we all think he is.
> >
> > I kinda felt sorry for the man and wanted to offer some help, so i
> > unicasted
> > the man and asking him if i could help. His reply to me was yes i
> > downloaded
> > your foundation work book from one of these share sites, but i do not
> have
> > equipment, could you help me, and he would not give up, he even tried
> > chatting.
> >
> > I do not understand the audacity of some people, its like, YES mate, i am
> > not home between these hours, PLEASE FEEL FREE, you can come over and
> steal
> > my rack, you downloaded my work book illegally, you might as well steal
> my
> > rack, hey mate feel free to take my car as well, after all here in US we
> > help and feel sorry for "A" holes like U.
> >
> > This is not the forum for your kinds.
> >
> > Guys like this man deserves no freaking help and mate i am not sorry for
> > you, i would have used stronger words, but i hope some one like you puts
> > both hands on your shoulders.
> >
> > There are many vendors participating here in this forum, i feel sorry for
> > the vendor that sells you anything, because it will show up in the same
> > place where he found my foundation.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 10:43 PM, Scott M Vermillion <
> > scott_ccie_list@it-ag.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Couldn't agree more Mr. Morris - I was somewhat sloppy in my choice of
> > > words. I was not (intentionally) suggesting that finding a way to
> > reflect
> > > a
> > > path towards CCIE certification in a resume/CV or cover letter is a bad
> > > thing (and it well may be that "CCIE written" is somehow involved in
> that
> > > effort). It's precisely the example you site that I was referring to -
> > > listing the written under a "Professional Certifications" section of a
> > > resume or including such nonsense in a signature block or online
> > > professional profile. "You aren't fooling anyone in the "CCIE
> community"
> > > with such shenanigans so just whom exactly are you trying to deceive
> and
> > to
> > > what end?" That was the sentiment I originally intended to convey...
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Scott Morris [mailto:smorris@internetworkexpert.com]
> > > Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2008 9:34 PM
> > > To: 'Atlanta CCIE'; armylegionmedic@aol.com
> > > Cc: scott_ccie_list@it-ag.com; joshuaatterbury@gmail.com;
> > > ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > Subject: RE: I am now CCIE written certified ( Best way for the lab)
> > >
> > > I think a lot would depend on where/how it appeared in a resume. If
> it's
> > > displayed prominently or under "Certifications" then I would lean
> towards
> > > Scott V's theory about potentially being deceptive and hoping to get by
> > the
> > > HR/Recruiter types who don't know a CCIE from an MCSE but have to check
> a
> > > box.
> > >
> > > There's always potential for grey area, but I think it depends on just
> > how
> > > it's portrayed.
> > >
> > > My two cents.
> > >
> > >
> > > Scott Morris, CCIE4 #4713, JNCIE-M #153, JNCIS-ER, CISSP, et al.
> > > CCSI/JNCI-M/JNCI-ER
> > > Senior CCIE Instructor
> > >
> > > smorris@internetworkexpert.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Knowledge is power.
> > > Power corrupts.
> > > Study hard and be Eeeeviiiil......
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> Of
> > > Atlanta CCIE
> > > Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2008 7:20 PM
> > > To: armylegionmedic@aol.com
> > > Cc: scott_ccie_list@it-ag.com; joshuaatterbury@gmail.com;
> > > ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > Subject: Re: I am now CCIE written certified ( Best way for the lab)
> > >
> > > Gotta agree with you. Person is NOT claiming that he is a CCIE. I think
> > you
> > > have got to mention that you have passed CCIE Written and are scheduled
> > to
> > > attempt the lab. Throwing the resume out just because it says CCIE
> > Written
> > > is just ignorance at it's best.
> > > Now if it said CCIE with no ccie# then that's a different story :)
> > >
> > > On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 6:37 PM, <armylegionmedic@aol.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I would have to say that is a bit harsh. As the CCIE Written is a
> > > > great accomplishment as are all level exams that you pass with Cisco.
> > > > Now, if someone said they were CCIE then had to reclearify and my
> > > > favorite to hear is well, Im CCIE Theory, so its a form of CCIE. Then
> > > > I would have to agree with you. Also, I feel it is important for
> > > > someone to list if they have at least accomplished the written as it
> > > > shows they are making the effort towards and IE. Many people are
> happy
> > > > at the professional level and have no desire to extend or progress
> > > > past that. When someone shows they have passed the written, it shows
> > > > they are at least making the effort to achieve more and greater in
> > their
> > > career.
> > > >
> > > > Just my soap box speak, thats all. I will step down now.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Scott M Vermillion <scott_ccie_list@it-ag.com>
> > > > To: 'joshua atterbury' <joshuaatterbury@gmail.com>
> > > > Cc: 'Cisco certification' <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > > > Sent: Sat, 22 Nov 2008 3:12 pm
> > > > Subject: RE: I am now CCIE written certified ( Best way for the lab)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Back in my "corporate" days, I would immediately reject any resume
> > > > that included the words "CCIE written" anywhere (and this was long
> > > > before I had a number or ever thought that I would). That just
> speaks
> > > > to a certain deceptiveness that should turn you off from any
> > > > prospective job candidate, no matter how seemingly qualified. So it
> > > > really harms the people trying to pull this off more than anyone.
> But
> > > > the sad truth is that people are definitely fooled by this. A few
> > > > months back I had a recruiter call and I had to turn him down right
> > > > away because I was already overloaded. He called me back later that
> > > > day to ask if I'd be willing to advise him on what a "CCIE written"
> > > > was, as he had somebody's resume with that "certification level" and
> > > > wanted to know my thoughts as to how qualified this person might be
> > > > for the project. I told him that it would be impossible to say on
> > > > that basis alone, considering that some true CCIEs aren't altogether
> > > > too capable and many non-CCIEs are freakin' geniuses. But I did
> share
> > > > my thoughts as to what it might say about that person's *integrity.*
> > > >
> > > > For whatever that's worth.
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> > > > Of joshua atterbury
> > > > Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 7:31 PM
> > > > To: Narbik Kocharians
> > > > Cc: Jonny English; Mark Sh; Cisco certification
> > > > Subject: Re: I am now CCIE written certified ( Best way for the lab)
> > > >
> > > > Maybe this guy has passed his written and is now studying for the
> lab.
> > > > Unfortunately I have heard people reference themselves as a
> "Written
> > > > CCIE"
> > > > ie passed written but not lab..... terrible stuff.
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 12:39 PM, Narbik Kocharians
> > > > <narbikk@gmail.com>wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > ??
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 5:10 PM, Jonny English
> > > > > <redkidneybeans@gmail.com
> > > > > >wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > what?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > why the heck do you want to sit the lab if you are a CCIE
> already?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 2:01 PM, Mark Sh <cciegroupst@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Dear All,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I am a CCIE almost 1 month ago and I want to start studying f
> > > > or the
> > > > lab
> > > > > > ..
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > what is the best practice to do it (scheduled on march 30th,
> > 2009).
> > > > > would
> > > > > > > you please guide me in the way to get it ..
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I can get 2 months leave from the company before the lab exam..
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I appreciate your cooperation and guidance ..
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Mark
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > >
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> > > > > > >
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> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
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> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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> > Narbik Kocharians
> > CCSI#30832, CCIE# 12410 (R&S, SP, Security)
> > www.MicronicsTraining
> > www.Net-Workbooks.com
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> >
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