From: Muhammad Nasim (muhammad.nasim@gmail.com)
Date: Sun Nov 23 2008 - 06:28:23 ARST
let say X person is getting 108,000 US& per year that would be 9 thousand US
$ per month
1 USD = 3.6710
9,000 $ = 33,039 aed
This 33 or 34 is a very very good figure . I should say exceptional now a
days as the CCIE numbers are growing.
21K and 22 K (AED) is an average salary per month. Which is also difficult
to find.
Based on the number of years the salry can be 50K AED BUT it is true for
more then 10, Years of expereicen
I hope cleared it out ; 0
2008/11/23 Mithun Bhat <fourthdan@gmail.com>
> wait, if i understand correctly, you're saying that a CCIE in the UAE gets
> 21k AED (dubai currency) a month?
> That can't be right. I have heard that CCIE's get double that.
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 12:15 PM, Muhammad Nasim <muhammad.nasim@gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
>> Agree
>>
>> 2008/11/23 Farrukh Haroon <farrukhharoon@gmail.com>
>>
>> > If this is what Farhan is getting, then its MUCH higher than the UAE
>> > market.
>> >
>> > The market (specially for RnS CCIEs) is way lower than that. Its more in
>> > the 60/70K range.
>> >
>> > Regards
>> >
>> > Farrukh
>> > On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 5:38 AM, darth router <darklordrouter@gmail.com
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >> over 100k tax free? I'd stay where your at. In fact, hook me up with a
>> job
>> >> :)
>> >>
>> >> On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 10:18 AM, Farhan Anwar <farhan.anwar@gmail.com
>> >> >wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Darby, would you please highlight, the problems, because the only
>> reason
>> >> i
>> >> > was considering to move to US is growth and good, projects. I make
>> more
>> >> > than
>> >> > 100,000 USD tax free, but with all the problems listed above. Moving
>> to
>> >> US
>> >> > even after the recession is over and the market stability is
>> regained,
>> >> is
>> >> > that a good move or not.
>> >> >
>> >> > On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 5:05 PM, Muhammad Nasim <
>> >> muhammad.nasim@gmail.com
>> >> > >wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > > Really are there people in US/Europe who are also badly stuck w.r.t
>> >> > growth.
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > If this is the case I am satisfied : )
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > 2008/11/22 Darby Weaver <ccie.weaver@gmail.com>
>> >> > >
>> >> > > I know many engineers in the USA facing similar dilemmas,
>> >> circumstances,
>> >> > >> and
>> >> > >> conditions typically for a lot less salary.
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 6:10 AM, Farhan Anwar <
>> >> farhan.anwar@gmail.com
>> >> > >> >wrote:
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> > Hi All,
>> >> > >> > I am working in the UAE, and as far as job options are concerned
>> >> being
>> >> > a
>> >> > >> > CCIE, you don't have any problems for job, but i do agree some
>> >> > companies
>> >> > >> > have freezed their hiring because of the global economic
>> slowdown.
>> >> But
>> >> > >> the
>> >> > >> > effect here is minimal or not yet started in full swing :),
>> >> specially
>> >> > in
>> >> > >> oil
>> >> > >> > rich abu dhabi emirate.
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> > The place is good with unlimited and unique entertainment,
>> leasure
>> >> and
>> >> > >> > shopping options. Safety is not an issue. Cars are cheap, like
>> >> bmw's
>> >> > and
>> >> > >> > range-rovers are mostly the favorites. Fuel is cheap, almost
>> 2.5
>> >> USD
>> >> > a
>> >> > >> > gallon.
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> > Technically speaking, the problem is most of the people you
>> >> interact
>> >> > are
>> >> > >> > not of technical background but they are sitting with extremely
>> >> > >> technical
>> >> > >> > designations and in the end you get frustrated that where the
>> hell
>> >> you
>> >> > >> are
>> >> > >> > stuck. Specially in Network Design and Security.
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> > I have faced some problems when i moved in here and this would
>> also
>> >> > >> answer
>> >> > >> > why now i am trying to move onto the European or US market, let
>> me
>> >> > share
>> >> > >> > with you the problems.
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> > - Technical Growth gets stuck, because i barely find any time
>> >> free
>> >> > to
>> >> > >> > study as the time gets wasted in either commuting or
>> >> traffic-jams.
>> >> > >> > - On the job, learning is limited as the work is repeated
>> most
>> >> of
>> >> > the
>> >> > >> > time.
>> >> > >> > - Most of the projects, even the smaller ones have uncapped
>> >> budgets
>> >> > >> > which defeats the purpose of optimization. For example an
>> >> average
>> >> > >> company
>> >> > >> > would not have any problems buying up Bluecoat proxysg 8100,
>> >> even
>> >> > if
>> >> > >> they
>> >> > >> > dont haveany requirements for it.
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> > - Traffic, on an average 2 - 4 hours per day you have to get
>> >> stuck.
>> >> > >> In
>> >> > >> > my opinion, the time you are spending on street is wasted as
>> its
>> >> > not
>> >> > >> given
>> >> > >> > to work or family. In this case, we usually work 8 hours, may
>> be
>> >> 10
>> >> > >> hours
>> >> > >> > some times, get 8 hours sleep which barely leaves sometime
>> being
>> >> > >> spent with
>> >> > >> > the family.
>> >> > >> > - You can't find the accommodation in the house-allowance the
>> >> > company
>> >> > >> > gives you. For doing some saving you have to move either to
>> some
>> >> > >> other
>> >> > >> > emirate and waste more time or move into the accommodation
>> that
>> >> > takes
>> >> > >> 50% of
>> >> > >> > your salary in advance for the full year.
>> >> > >> > - Since their is no train system yet introduced, every expat
>> is
>> >> > >> buying
>> >> > >> > a car as first priority which is creating traffic, parking
>> and
>> >> > >> saturation
>> >> > >> > issues.
>> >> > >> > - Although there is no Tax on the income but you end up
>> saving
>> >> the
>> >> > >> same
>> >> > >> > amount of money which you would save in other regions.
>> >> > >> > - The Internet access is still immature and highly dominated
>> by
>> >> a
>> >> > >> > single player, the average dsl speeds avaiable are 256k, 512k
>> >> and
>> >> > 1M,
>> >> > >> at the
>> >> > >> > cost of 70 USD per month for 512k with extremely limited
>> upload
>> >> of
>> >> > >> 128k.
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> > Thats all i can think of right now, in the end, it is totally my
>> >> > >> personal
>> >> > >> > opinion and some people would agree and some may disagree.
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> > On 11/22/08, Darby Weaver <ccie.weaver@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > >> >>
>> >> > >> >> Some people may be having a hiring freeze and others can't fill
>> >> some
>> >> > >> >> positions. It's a rough battle.
>> >> > >> >>
>> >> > >> >>
>> >> > >> >>
>> >> > >> >>
>> >> > >> >> On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 4:04 PM, Marko Milivojevic <
>> >> > markom@markom.info
>> >> > >> >> >wrote:
>> >> > >> >>
>> >> > >> >>
>> >> > >> >> > Aren't they, like pretty much the rest of the world, in a
>> hiring
>> >> > >> pause
>> >> > >> >> now?
>> >> > >> >> > :-)
>> >> > >> >> >
>> >> > >> >> > On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 12:51, Gary Duncanson
>> >> > >> >> > <garyduncanson@btinternet.com> wrote:
>> >> > >> >> > > Dubai rocks.
>> >> > >> >> > >
>> >> > >> >> > > Any interesting jobs out there unicast me.
>> >> > >> >> > >
>> >> > >> >> > > Regards
>> >> > >> >> > > Gary
>> >> > >> >> > > ----- Original Message ----- From: <sheherezada@gmail.com>
>> >> > >> >> > > To: "Cisco certification" <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
>> >> > >> >> > > Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 8:46 AM
>> >> > >> >> > > Subject: OT: CCIE Salary Survey
>> >> > >> >> > >
>> >> > >> >> > >
>> >> > >> >> > >> Both Cisco and IBM are moving their EMEA headquarters to
>> >> Dubai,
>> >> > as
>> >> > >> I
>> >> > >> >> > >> have heard. So no need to nominate someone.
>> >> > >> >> > >>
>> >> > >> >> > >> Mihai
>> >> > >> >> > >>
>> >> > >> >> > >> On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 4:43 PM, Tony Varriale
>> >> > >> >> > >> <tvarriale@flamboyaninc.com> wrote:
>> >> > >> >> > >>>
>> >> > >> >> > >>> Care to share your list? I have not seen one high
>> profile
>> >> exec
>> >> > >> make
>> >> > >> >> a
>> >> > >> >> > >>> public statement supporting yours (and I don't know of
>> any
>> >> > living
>> >> > >> >> > there).
>> >> > >> >> > >>>
>> >> > >> >> > >>> -----Original Message-----
>> >> > >> >> > >>> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:
>> nobody@groupstudy.com]
>> >> On
>> >> > >> >> Behalf
>> >> > >> >> > Of
>> >> > >> >> > >>> Darby Weaver
>> >> > >> >> > >>> Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 8:36 AM
>> >> > >> >> > >>> To: Felix Nkansah
>> >> > >> >> > >>> Cc: Muhammad Nasim; Jonny English; Administrator; Cyrus;
>> >> Larry
>> >> > >> >> > Letterman
>> >> > >> >> > >>> (lletterm); Scott Morris; Joseph Brunner; Huzefa;
>> >> > >> >> > ccielab@groupstudy.com
>> >> > >> >> > >>> Subject: Re: CCIE Salary Survey
>> >> > >> >> > >>>
>> >> > >> >> > >>> Think of it like this....
>> >> > >> >> > >>>
>> >> > >> >> > >>> Most super US executives who can... do live or plan to
>> move
>> >> to
>> >> > >> >> Dubai,
>> >> > >> >> > >>> the
>> >> > >> >> > >>> Internet City or something like that.
>> >> > >> >> > >>>
>> >> > >> >> > >>> It's not what you see on TV, it's Ultra-Modern. Makes
>> >> cities
>> >> > in
>> >> > >> New
>> >> > >> >> > York
>> >> > >> >> > >>> and California look like the old west.
>> >> > >> >> > >>>
>> >> > >> >> > >>> Ignorance is bliss.
>> >> > >> >> > >>>
>> >> > >> >> > >>>
>> >> > >> >> > >>> On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 3:53 AM, Felix Nkansah
>> >> > >> >> > >>> <felixnkansah@gmail.com>wrote:
>> >> > >> >> > >>>
>> >> > >> >> > >>>> Hi,
>> >> > >> >> > >>>>
>> >> > >> >> > >>>> I have been to Dubai a couple of times.
>> >> > >> >> > >>>> It's been rated by some US and UK mags as the most
>> peaceful
>> >> > >> place
>> >> > >> >> on
>> >> > >> >> > >>>> earth
>> >> > >> >> > >>>> for ten consecutive years. I mean it.
>> >> > >> >> > >>>>
>> >> > >> >> > >>>> At least you're not going to hear of car thefts or
>> >> robberies.
>> >> > I
>> >> > >> >> feel
>> >> > >> >> > >>>> safer
>> >> > >> >> > >>>> when walking out there.
>> >> > >> >> > >>>>
>> >> > >> >> > >>>> Of course, everything stands out for argument, but this
>> is
>> >> my
>> >> > >> >> personal
>> >> > >> >> > >>>> observation of Dubai.
>> >> > >> >> > >>>>
>> >> > >> >> > >>>> Only that things are too expensive for my liking.
>> >> > >> >> > >>>>
>> >> > >> >> > >>>> Felix
>> >> > >> >> > >>>>
>> >> > >> >> > >>>>
>> >> > >> >> > >>>> Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net
>> >> > >> >> > >>>>
>> >> > >> >> > >>>>
>> >> > >> >> >
>> >> > >>
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>> >> > >> > --
>> >> > >> > Farhan.
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>> >> > > --
>> >> > > Muhammad Nasim
>> >> > > Network Engineer
>> >> > > Saudi Arabia
>> >> > >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > Syed Farhan A. Hussain
>> >> > CCIE #19871
>> >> > Senior Network Consultant
>> >> > www.farhananwar.com
>> >> >
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>> Muhammad Nasim
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