From: Jonny English (redkidneybeans@gmail.com)
Date: Sun Nov 23 2008 - 05:51:40 ARST
He was even asking someone for there CCIE cert in another post LOL...
On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 8:22 PM, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk@gmail.com>wrote:
> Well, let me share something with you guys, Mr. Mark Sh with his broken
> English that we were joking and some of us felt sorry for him, is not what
> we all think he is.
>
> I kinda felt sorry for the man and wanted to offer some help, so i
> unicasted
> the man and asking him if i could help. His reply to me was yes i
> downloaded
> your foundation work book from one of these share sites, but i do not have
> equipment, could you help me, and he would not give up, he even tried
> chatting.
>
> I do not understand the audacity of some people, its like, YES mate, i am
> not home between these hours, PLEASE FEEL FREE, you can come over and steal
> my rack, you downloaded my work book illegally, you might as well steal my
> rack, hey mate feel free to take my car as well, after all here in US we
> help and feel sorry for "A" holes like U.
>
> This is not the forum for your kinds.
>
> Guys like this man deserves no freaking help and mate i am not sorry for
> you, i would have used stronger words, but i hope some one like you puts
> both hands on your shoulders.
>
> There are many vendors participating here in this forum, i feel sorry for
> the vendor that sells you anything, because it will show up in the same
> place where he found my foundation.
>
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 10:43 PM, Scott M Vermillion <
> scott_ccie_list@it-ag.com> wrote:
>
> > Couldn't agree more Mr. Morris - I was somewhat sloppy in my choice of
> > words. I was not (intentionally) suggesting that finding a way to
> reflect
> > a
> > path towards CCIE certification in a resume/CV or cover letter is a bad
> > thing (and it well may be that "CCIE written" is somehow involved in that
> > effort). It's precisely the example you site that I was referring to -
> > listing the written under a "Professional Certifications" section of a
> > resume or including such nonsense in a signature block or online
> > professional profile. "You aren't fooling anyone in the "CCIE community"
> > with such shenanigans so just whom exactly are you trying to deceive and
> to
> > what end?" That was the sentiment I originally intended to convey...
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Scott Morris [mailto:smorris@internetworkexpert.com]
> > Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2008 9:34 PM
> > To: 'Atlanta CCIE'; armylegionmedic@aol.com
> > Cc: scott_ccie_list@it-ag.com; joshuaatterbury@gmail.com;
> > ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Subject: RE: I am now CCIE written certified ( Best way for the lab)
> >
> > I think a lot would depend on where/how it appeared in a resume. If it's
> > displayed prominently or under "Certifications" then I would lean towards
> > Scott V's theory about potentially being deceptive and hoping to get by
> the
> > HR/Recruiter types who don't know a CCIE from an MCSE but have to check a
> > box.
> >
> > There's always potential for grey area, but I think it depends on just
> how
> > it's portrayed.
> >
> > My two cents.
> >
> >
> > Scott Morris, CCIE4 #4713, JNCIE-M #153, JNCIS-ER, CISSP, et al.
> > CCSI/JNCI-M/JNCI-ER
> > Senior CCIE Instructor
> >
> > smorris@internetworkexpert.com
> >
> >
> >
> > Knowledge is power.
> > Power corrupts.
> > Study hard and be Eeeeviiiil......
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> > Atlanta CCIE
> > Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2008 7:20 PM
> > To: armylegionmedic@aol.com
> > Cc: scott_ccie_list@it-ag.com; joshuaatterbury@gmail.com;
> > ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Subject: Re: I am now CCIE written certified ( Best way for the lab)
> >
> > Gotta agree with you. Person is NOT claiming that he is a CCIE. I think
> you
> > have got to mention that you have passed CCIE Written and are scheduled
> to
> > attempt the lab. Throwing the resume out just because it says CCIE
> Written
> > is just ignorance at it's best.
> > Now if it said CCIE with no ccie# then that's a different story :)
> >
> > On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 6:37 PM, <armylegionmedic@aol.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I would have to say that is a bit harsh. As the CCIE Written is a
> > > great accomplishment as are all level exams that you pass with Cisco.
> > > Now, if someone said they were CCIE then had to reclearify and my
> > > favorite to hear is well, Im CCIE Theory, so its a form of CCIE. Then
> > > I would have to agree with you. Also, I feel it is important for
> > > someone to list if they have at least accomplished the written as it
> > > shows they are making the effort towards and IE. Many people are happy
> > > at the professional level and have no desire to extend or progress
> > > past that. When someone shows they have passed the written, it shows
> > > they are at least making the effort to achieve more and greater in
> their
> > career.
> > >
> > > Just my soap box speak, thats all. I will step down now.
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Scott M Vermillion <scott_ccie_list@it-ag.com>
> > > To: 'joshua atterbury' <joshuaatterbury@gmail.com>
> > > Cc: 'Cisco certification' <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > > Sent: Sat, 22 Nov 2008 3:12 pm
> > > Subject: RE: I am now CCIE written certified ( Best way for the lab)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Back in my "corporate" days, I would immediately reject any resume
> > > that included the words "CCIE written" anywhere (and this was long
> > > before I had a number or ever thought that I would). That just speaks
> > > to a certain deceptiveness that should turn you off from any
> > > prospective job candidate, no matter how seemingly qualified. So it
> > > really harms the people trying to pull this off more than anyone. But
> > > the sad truth is that people are definitely fooled by this. A few
> > > months back I had a recruiter call and I had to turn him down right
> > > away because I was already overloaded. He called me back later that
> > > day to ask if I'd be willing to advise him on what a "CCIE written"
> > > was, as he had somebody's resume with that "certification level" and
> > > wanted to know my thoughts as to how qualified this person might be
> > > for the project. I told him that it would be impossible to say on
> > > that basis alone, considering that some true CCIEs aren't altogether
> > > too capable and many non-CCIEs are freakin' geniuses. But I did share
> > > my thoughts as to what it might say about that person's *integrity.*
> > >
> > > For whatever that's worth.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> > > Of joshua atterbury
> > > Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 7:31 PM
> > > To: Narbik Kocharians
> > > Cc: Jonny English; Mark Sh; Cisco certification
> > > Subject: Re: I am now CCIE written certified ( Best way for the lab)
> > >
> > > Maybe this guy has passed his written and is now studying for the lab.
> > > Unfortunately I have heard people reference themselves as a "Written
> > > CCIE"
> > > ie passed written but not lab..... terrible stuff.
> > >
> > > On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 12:39 PM, Narbik Kocharians
> > > <narbikk@gmail.com>wrote:
> > >
> > > > ??
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 5:10 PM, Jonny English
> > > > <redkidneybeans@gmail.com
> > > > >wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > what?
> > > > >
> > > > > why the heck do you want to sit the lab if you are a CCIE already?
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 2:01 PM, Mark Sh <cciegroupst@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Dear All,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am a CCIE almost 1 month ago and I want to start studying f
> > > or the
> > > lab
> > > > > ..
> > > > > >
> > > > > > what is the best practice to do it (scheduled on march 30th,
> 2009).
> > > > would
> > > > > > you please guide me in the way to get it ..
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I can get 2 months leave from the company before the lab exam..
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I appreciate your cooperation and guidance ..
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Mark
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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