From: Ramanpreet Singh (sikandar.raman@gmail.com)
Date: Tue Nov 18 2008 - 22:08:40 ARST
Yeps Darby is 100% correct.
I am one of the happy student of Narbik.
On 11/18/08, Darby Weaver <ccie.weaver@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Kgabo,
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> FYI -
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> I think this question came up in the past. Well, I know it did. The list
> owner himself, Paul, checked into it as I recall to his own satisfaction
> and
> came to the conclusion that there are just a lot of happy people coming out
> of Narbik's classes.
>
> It sounds too good to be true. But as a person who has been to his class
> and been to others...
>
> He has a certain nack for making a lot of tricky topics look ridiculously
> easy.
>
> Others created or had to follow suit with their own development of similar
> product lines to compete properly with guys like Narbik.
>
> Once upon a time a friend of mine who purchased IPExpert's materials... got
> on the phone with one of the Brian's and that Brian explained to him their
> dream/goal/promise of teaching the technologies.
>
> You see before these guys came along most people only had a few choices for
> CCIE Training at this level:
>
> 1. IPExpert and the E-Scenarios
> 2. NLI came out with the Golden Labs
> 3. NMC did not really offer a lower end product but did have a Tech Library
> which may not have been offered at the time. They also had products that I
> think were called "Learn-IT" or something like that.
>
>
> Today the thought of having to buy an entire pacakge from a single vendor
> is
> kind fo dying...
>
> Blogs are all over the Internet now and they offer a lot of succulent
> detail
> on many problem areas and plenty of high-quality learning materials.
>
> Vendors like the Brian's have an entire "End-to-End" training session.
>
> IPExpert has an awesome "BLS or Blended Learning Solution".
>
> Narbik offers his students a very high-quality turbo-charged class
> experience and his personal guarantee to help a student till they pass.
>
> Can you blame students for being excited about that?
>
> The Brians offer pretty much the same deal for their students. Pay one
> price and pass the lab.
>
> The Brians have a team of professionals on staff in some capacity.
>
> Narbik does not as far as I know.
>
> Other vendors contract out help from some silent CCIE's who write or update
> their materials for them. I know of 2-3 of these guys that I've kept up
> with over time. Some use hired guns to teach their classes. So I'd suppose
> they have more students and a bigger business model.
>
> Or just pay $20,000.00+ for the Cisco 360 Program and if you do you'd
> better
> pass in say 12 months or whatever their offer may be.
>
> Unfortunately many CCIE's on this list have been on this list for more than
> 12 months typically. Some for years. Search the archives and this does
> not
> count the time some spent lurking.
>
> So...
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> No Narbik does not have multiple personalities.
>
> He does have a lot of happy students... His price and the quality of his
> presence seems to make them want to come back for another drink from his
> well.
>
> When he's ready to offer everything the other vendors do, then there will
> probably be a few less horses in the race.
>
> I mean if guys like IE, IPEpert, and Narbik are offering everything at one
> price...
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> $20,000.00+ classes will probably not do so well.
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> On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 11:33 AM, Kgabo Seopa <kgabo.seopa@gmail.com>
> wrote:
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> > I tend to agree with people who say all advertising emails about Narbik's
> > blah blah are actually written by him!
> >
> > Just my thought!
> >
> > Kind Regards,
> > KG
> >
> > "A man's dreams are an index to his greatness"
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> > Darby Weaver
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 4:34 PM
> > To: Narbik Kocharians
> > Cc: Huan Pham; Atlanta CCIE; Cisco certification
> > Subject: Re: {SPAM} Price increased for Narbik's US bootcamp?
> >
> > I guess one needs to ensure one takes a class with Micronics versus
> taking
> > a
> > class with another vendor that has hired Narbik to teach or them.
> >
> > It's kinda not fair to expect Narbik to honor his company's guarantee
> when
> > a
> > student actually pays another vendor. In this case Narbik is working as
> > either an employee or as a contractor.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 7:38 PM, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk@gmail.com
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > YEs he can, once you take a class with Micronics (ME) you can re-take
> the
> > > class 10 times if you want. YOU WON'T PAY A CENT TO RE-TAKE THE CLASS,
> > just
> > > make sure that you have your own rack or your are renting one.
> > >
> > > On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 3:03 PM, Huan Pham
> > > <Huan.Pham@peopletelecom.com.au>wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Atlanta,
> > > >
> > > > You told me that you attended the Narbik bootcamp before, and you
> said
> > > > that that's what really got you going. Why you try to register again,
> > > > and why you have to care about the price increase? Can't you get a
> free
> > > > retake from him?
> > > >
> > > > Just curious!
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> > Of
> > > > Atlanta CCIE
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, 18 November 2008 8:25 AM
> > > > To: Cisco certification
> > > > Subject: Price increased for Narbik's US bootcamp?
> > > >
> > > > I was trying to register for the bootcamp in Pasadena and it appears
> > > > that Narbik's bootcamp is now $2500 rather than $2000. Anyone notice
> > > > that?
> > > >
> > > >
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