From: Wes Stevens (wrsteve33-gsccie@yahoo.com)
Date: Wed Nov 05 2008 - 16:28:04 ARST
I am hardly scared about the numbers increaseing. I have worked for the same company for 20 years - job interviews are not a big priority either. But I worked hard for my number and spent a lot of money on a home lab to study (it was before there were a lot of reasonably priced online lab options). My company is like most large enterprise orgs - they know what I can do and the number is of little use to them. But the number does help me with dealing with vendors and has other intangable benefits.
It is just sad to see it going the same route as the MCSE....
----- Original Message ----
From: Atlanta CCIE <atlantaccie@gmail.com>
To: Wes Stevens <wrsteve33-gsccie@yahoo.com>
Cc: Darby Weaver <ccie.weaver@gmail.com>; Brad Ellis <brad@ccbootcamp.com>; Pamela Pinero <pampinero@gmail.com>; Cisco certification <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2008 8:25:14 PM
Subject: Re: CCDE Study Materials
Its all good. I could careless if its 100% pass rate. I have said it before,
CCIE# is JUST that a number and helps you get an interview. What you do at
the interview determines whether you get the job or not :)
If someone is scared about CCIE#s increasing, that tells us more about THEM
rather than the ccies that they are talking about. If you know you are good,
there is NOTHING to worry about.
On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 8:55 PM, Wes Stevens <wrsteve33-gsccie@yahoo.com>wrote:
> I was told by a knowledable source that the pass rate at the bejing lab was
> up
> to 90% before they implemented the prelab questionaire/interview. The
> interview dropped it back to the 20% range. That is not a 'preceived
> misconception' that is a real problem. I know that Cisco is working on it,
> but
> some of the damage is done.
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Darby
> Weaver <ccie.weaver@gmail.com>
> To: Wes Stevens <wrsteve33-gsccie@yahoo.com>
> Cc: Brad Ellis <brad@ccbootcamp.com>; Pamela Pinero <pampinero@gmail.com>;
> Cisco certification <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2008
> 7:09:15 PM
> Subject: Re: CCDE Study Materials
>
>
> Rumor Control:
>
> The CCIE RS Lab
> is already in the process of changing... to counter any perceived
> misconceptions about those who just memorize the lab... or are thought to.
> Something about... all CCIE needing to be Re-Lab Certified or something
> like
> that.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 7:52 PM, Wes Stevens
> <wrsteve33-gsccie@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> One of the nice things on this exam is
> that bootcamps IMHO will not do you much good. You are going to have a lot
> of
> experience and do a fair amount of studying on the parts that you don't
> deal
> with every day.
>
> Between the bootcamps and the braindumping that is so
> prevelent in some part of the world, the CCIE is really going down hill as
> witnessed by the explosion in the numbers. I hope that the fact that this
> exam
> changes the content completely each time it is given will protect it from
> the
> braindumps.
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Brad Ellis
> <brad@ccbootcamp.com>
> To: Pamela Pinero <pampinero@gmail.com>; Cisco
> certification <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2008 6:00:30
> PM
> Subject: RE: CCDE Study Materials
>
>
> Pamela,
>
> Hi! Those list of books are
> pretty good. The most effective book on the
> list is the one by Russ White,
> Optimal Routing Design; he is one of the
> CCDE SME's (subject matter experts).
> The link to the Cisco press book:
> http://www.ciscopress.com/bookstore/product.asp?isbn=1587051877
>
> We do have a
> CCDE written study guide that is in the process of being
> updated and is about
> 50% of the way there.
>
> If you are looking for instructor led training for
> CCDE, we submitted
> our CCDE written boot camp materials to Cisco a few months
> ago, and got
> the "stamp of approval" on our content just recently. Per Cisco,
> we are
> the only Cisco approved CCDE training vendor in the world. They have
> not
> reviewed anyone else's content. We are in the process of updating our
> website to reflect the new approved CCDE training course. The website
> should
> be updated within the next couple days:
> http://www.ccbootcamp.com/instructor-led-training/ccde.html
>
> Feel free and
> email me offlist and I will let you know when the CCDE
> written study guide is
> finished with the update.
>
> thanks,
> Brad Ellis
> CCIE#5796 (R&S / Security)
> CCSI#
> 30482
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> -----Original
> Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On
> Behalf Of
> Pamela Pinero
> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 2:14 PM
> To: 'Cisco
> certification'
> Subject: CCDE Study Materials
>
> Team, I am thinking of changing
> from my CCIE pursuit to CCDE. I went
> through
> Cisco's website, found a list of
> recommended reading:
> http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/le3/ccde/booklist.html
> But I was
> really
> wanting some more concise information since there are so many
> books to
> read.
> What is everyone using to study for the first exam? Are you
> reading all
> of
> those books? Is there an easier way to study?
>
>
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