From: Andrew Dempsey (apdccie@gmail.com)
Date: Wed Nov 05 2008 - 13:20:31 ARST
They are servicing a different sector of the market now. Take a quick look
at their current price structure which effectively excludes many candidates
from even buying a single product especially those candidates in developing
countries. To exclude these candidates NMC likely believes that there will
be another sector of the market which they will now service. Whether NMC
chose to do this because they could not compete in the current market or for
some other business reason is not something I care to understand as I can't
afford their products now. :)
On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 9:30 AM, Duncan Maccubbin <
duncan.maccubbin@earthlink.net> wrote:
> "NMC Customers who enjoyed access for years have been KICKED to the
> CURB!!!"
>
> I'm sorry, who else gave years of access to their stuff?
>
> Darby,
>
> I sincerely hope this comment isn't aimed at NMC:
>
> "If you can't beat the competition, cut your cords and start over with a
> new model."
>
> Although it seems your tone is. You took their classes and came on this
> forum and said how great they are. You took your first NMC class in January
> '06 and you have had almost three years of access to their stuff. Now you
> are complaining about it?
>
> I don't claim to know the nuts and bolts behind the 360 program or why NMC
> chose to go with it. I do know they are smart guys with a successful
> business and I think they thought this out. I, for one, am in no position to
> judge them.
>
> They certainly helped me greatly in attaining my CCIE.
>
> Duncan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: Darby Weaver <ccie.weaver@gmail.com>
> >Sent: Nov 5, 2008 8:48 AM
> >To: John Wayne <john.wayne.ccie@gmail.com>
> >Cc: Mohamed El Henawy <m.henawy@link.net>, Mohammed Naviwala <
> monavy@gmail.com>, Atlanta CCIE <atlantaccie@gmail.com>, Narbik
> > Kocharians <narbikk@gmail.com>, "L. Jankok" <ljankok@gmail.com>, Brian
> McGahan <bmcgahan@internetworkexpert.com>,
> asequeira@internetworkexpert.com, ccielab@groupstudy.com
> >Subject: Re: IE Announcement
> >
> >I second that emotion.
> >
> >NMC cut all strings with their previous clients.
> >
> >Mentor Tech did it before...
> >
> >NMC is the Legacy of Mentor Technologies...
> >
> >
> >Cisco 360 is now the grandchild of both!
> >
> >Guess which clients will get their cherry popped next!!!!
> >
> >It's a business strategy! If you can't beat the competition, cut your
> cords
> >and start over with a new model.
> >
> >Love this stuff.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 6:52 AM, John Wayne <john.wayne.ccie@gmail.com
> >wrote:
> >
> >> NMC Customers who enjoyed access for years have been KICKED to the
> CURB!!!
> >>
> >>
> >> 360 Sucks!!!!
> >>
> >>
> >> It's a new day...
> >>
> >> Vote with your training dollars...
> >>
> >> 6 month programs that expire.
> >>
> >> Lifetime Programs that support your career...
> >>
> >>
> >> Make the choice...
> >>
> >> Time to let vendors know what we think of the 360 Program...
> >>
> >>
> >> Hint: It ain't very good right now... and does not promise to get
> better.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 1:50 AM, Mohamed El Henawy <m.henawy@link.net>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > the same idea came to me......customers will be the victim at the end
> >> even
> >> > though IE is really my hero now . the ideas there are just
> great....god
> >> be
> >> > with you guys
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mohammed Naviwala" <
> monavy@gmail.com
> >> >
> >> > To: "Atlanta CCIE" <atlantaccie@gmail.com>
> >> > Cc: "Narbik Kocharians" <narbikk@gmail.com>; "L. Jankok" <
> >> > ljankok@gmail.com>; "Brian McGahan" <bmcgahan@internetworkexpert.com>;
> <
> >> > asequeira@internetworkexpert.com>; <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> >> > Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 1:44 PM
> >> > Subject: Re: IE Announcement
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > are IE and cisco at war with ech other?? thats what i thaught after i
> saw
> >> >> te
> >> >> recrdin....
> >> >>
> >> >> On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 2:05 AM, Atlanta CCIE <atlantaccie@gmail.com
> >
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> http://www.ccietalk.com/2008/10/30/internetwork-expert-ccie-20 for
> >> folks
> >> >>> who
> >> >>> missed it
> >> >>> On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 5:55 PM, Narbik Kocharians <
> narbikk@gmail.com
> >> >>> >wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> > unbelievable.....Unbelievable
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 12:59 PM, L. Jankok <ljankok@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > > Great, I am viewing :)
> >> >>> > >
> >> >>> > > 2008/10/30 Brian McGahan <bmcgahan@internetworkexpert.com>
> >> >>> > >
> >> >>> > > > The recording can be viewed here:
> >> >>> > > > http://ieclass.internetworkexpert.com/p95047727/
> >> >>> > > >
> >> >>> > > > More info will be posted on the details of the updates soon.
> >> >>> > > >
> >> >>> > > > Thanks!
> >> >>> > > >
> >> >>> > > > Brian McGahan, CCIE #8593 (R&S/SP/Security)
> >> >>> > > > bmcgahan@internetworkexpert.com
> >> >>> > > >
> >> >>> > > > Internetwork Expert, Inc.
> >> >>> > > > http://www.InternetworkExpert.com<
> http://www.internetworkexpert.com/>
> >> <http://www.internetworkexpert.com/>
> >> >>> <http://www.internetworkexpert.com/><
> >> >>> http://www.internetworkexpert.com/>
> >> >>> > <
> >> >>> > > http://www.internetworkexpert.com/>
> >> >>> > > > Toll Free: 877-224-8987 x 705
> >> >>> > > > Outside US: 775-826-4344 x 705
> >> >>> > > >
> >> >>> > > >
> >> >>> > > > L. Jankok wrote:
> >> >>> > > >
> >> >>> > > > I am viewing Diego now, together with my 3 year old son :D
> >> >>> > > >
> >> >>> > > > 2008/10/30 Anthony Sequeira <asequeira@internetworkexpert.com>
> <
> >> >>> > > asequeira@internetworkexpert.com>
> >> >>> > > >
> >> >>> > > > So sorry you experienced a problem with your live viewing.
> We >
> >> >
> >> >>> > will
> >> >>> be
> >> >>> > > sure
> >> >>> > > > to make the recording available to all very soon.
> >> >>> > > >
> >> >>> > > >
> >> >>> > > > Warmest regards,
> >> >>> > > >
> >> >>> > > > Anthony J. Sequeira, CCIE #15626, CCSI #23251
> >> >>> > > > Senior CCIE Instructor
> >> >>> > > > asequeira@internetworkexpert.com
> >> >>> > > >
> >> >>> > > > Internetwork Expert, Inc.
> >> >>> > > > http://www.InternetworkExpert.com<
> http://www.internetworkexpert.com/>
> >> <http://www.internetworkexpert.com/>
> >> >>> <http://www.internetworkexpert.com/><
> >> >>> http://www.internetworkexpert.com/>
> >> >>> > <
> >> >>> > > http://www.internetworkexpert.com/> <
> >> >>> http://www.internetworkexpert.com/>
> >> >>> > <
> >> >>> > > http://www.internetworkexpert.com/>
> >> >>> > > >
> >> >>> > > > Toll Free: 877-224-8987
> >> >>> > > > Outside US: 775-826-4344
> >> >>> > > >
> >> >>> > > >
> >> >>> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> >>> > > > From: "L. Jankok" <ljankok@gmail.com> <ljankok@gmail.com>
> >> >>> > > > Sent: Thu, October 30, 2008 12:55
> >> >>> > > > Subject:Re: IE Announcement
> >> >>> > > >
> >> >>> > > > Well... I was in watching the presentation, than my screen
> went >
> >> >
> >> >>> > blank
> >> >>> > so
> >> >>> > > I
> >> >>> > > > hitted F5 and got a page telling me that the meeting
> >> >>> > > > is already in progress.. pretty dissapointing :(
> >> >>> > > >
> >> >>> > > > 2008/10/30 Atlanta CCIE <atlantaccie@gmail.com> <
> >> >>> atlantaccie@gmail.com
> >> >>> > >
> >> >>> > > >
> >> >>> > > > I was not able to login either. Says recording will be
> >> posted
> >> >>> lol
> >> >>> > > >
> >> >>> > > > On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 2:02 PM, Mike Leske <
> >> >>> mike.leske@googlemail.com
> >> >>> > > >
> >> >>> > > > wrote:
> >> >>> > > >
> >> >>> > > >
> >> >>> > > > I already got a mail stating that two many registered for the
> > >
> >> >
> >> >>> event.
> >> >>> > > > I have to wait un
> >> >>> > > >
> >> >>> > > >
> >> >>> > > > 2008/10/30 Andrew Dempsey <apdccie@gmail.com> <
> apdccie@gmail.com
> >> >
> >> >>> > > >
> >> >>> > > > Pretty sure the news will hit this list within minutes
> >> >>> anyway.
> >> >>> > > >
> >> >>> > > > On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 1:52 PM, Ali Mousawi > > > <
> >> >>> mousawi.ali@gmail.com>
> >> >>> <
> >> >>> > > mousawi.ali@gmail.com>
> >> >>> > > >
> >> >>> > > > > > > wrote:
> >> >>> > > >
> >> >>> > > >
> >> >>> > > > it seems no place for non IE customers :(
> >> >>> > > >
> >> >>> > > >
> >> >>> > > > On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 10:49 AM, Rick Mur <murserver@me.com>
> <
> >> >>> > > murserver@me.com>
> >> >>> > > >
> >> >>> > > > wrote:
> >> >>> > > >
> >> >>> > > >
> >> >>> > > > Don't know if I break some NDA for it but:
> >> >>> > > >
> >> >>> > > >
> >> >>> > > >
> >> >>> > > >
> >> >>> > > >
> >> http://ieclass.internetworkexpert.com/announcement/?launcher=false
> >> >>> > > >
> >> >>> > > > log-in with your standard classroom account
> >> >>> > > >
> >> >>> > > >
> >> >>> > > > On 30 okt 2008, at 18:46, Ali Mousawi wrote:
> >> >>> > > >
> >> >>> > > > Hello,
> >> >>> > > >
> >> >>> > > >
> >> >>> > > > Is the announcment in 15 mins? I signed up but how will i join
> i
> >> >>> > > >
> >> >>> > > >
> >> >>> > > > didnt
> >> >>> > > >
> >> >>> > > >
> >> >>> > > > get
> >> >>> > > >
> >> >>> > > >
> >> >>> > > > any link?
> >> >>> > > >
> >> >>> > > >
> >> >>> > > > Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net
> >> >>> > > >
> >> >>> > > >
> >> >>> > > >
> >> >>> > >
> >> >>>
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> >> >>> > > > ----- End of original message -----
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> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > --
> >> >>> > Narbik Kocharians
> >> >>> > CCSI#30832, CCIE# 12410 (R&S, SP, Security)
> >> >>> > www.MicronicsTraining
> >> >>> > www.Net-Workbooks.com <http://www.net-workbooks.com/> <
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> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Best Regards
> >> >>
> >> >> Mohammed Abdul Razzaq
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> If you are not small enough to loose, you are not big enough to win..
> >> >>
> >> >>
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