From: Darby Weaver (ccie.weaver@gmail.com)
Date: Wed Nov 05 2008 - 13:39:45 ARST
Ok - fair enough.
But with ECP-1 and ECP-2 and a few other products that look a lot like what
NMC-1 and NMC-2 was... the products that were from Mentor... look a lot like
NMC...
Which means that CCIERS-1 and 2 are ultimately direct descendents of ECP-1
and ECP-2...
Well that's my theory of evolution.
On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 9:43 AM, Scott Morris <swm@emanon.com> wrote:
> Mentor Technologies didn't quite sever their clients in the same fashion...
> They went bankrupt (chapter 7) and out of business! :)
>
> The mentality is completely different, and not derived from "genetic"
> relationships.
>
> Scott
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Darby Weaver
> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 8:48 AM
> To: John Wayne
> Cc: Mohamed El Henawy; Mohammed Naviwala; Atlanta CCIE; Narbik Kocharians;
> L. Jankok; Brian McGahan; asequeira@internetworkexpert.com;
> ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: IE Announcement
>
> I second that emotion.
>
> NMC cut all strings with their previous clients.
>
> Mentor Tech did it before...
>
> NMC is the Legacy of Mentor Technologies...
>
>
> Cisco 360 is now the grandchild of both!
>
> Guess which clients will get their cherry popped next!!!!
>
> It's a business strategy! If you can't beat the competition, cut your
> cords
> and start over with a new model.
>
> Love this stuff.
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 6:52 AM, John Wayne <john.wayne.ccie@gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > NMC Customers who enjoyed access for years have been KICKED to the
> CURB!!!
> >
> >
> > 360 Sucks!!!!
> >
> >
> > It's a new day...
> >
> > Vote with your training dollars...
> >
> > 6 month programs that expire.
> >
> > Lifetime Programs that support your career...
> >
> >
> > Make the choice...
> >
> > Time to let vendors know what we think of the 360 Program...
> >
> >
> > Hint: It ain't very good right now... and does not promise to get
> better.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 1:50 AM, Mohamed El Henawy <m.henawy@link.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > the same idea came to me......customers will be the victim at the
> > > end
> > even
> > > though IE is really my hero now . the ideas there are just
> > > great....god
> > be
> > > with you guys
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mohammed Naviwala"
> > > <monavy@gmail.com
> > >
> > > To: "Atlanta CCIE" <atlantaccie@gmail.com>
> > > Cc: "Narbik Kocharians" <narbikk@gmail.com>; "L. Jankok" <
> > > ljankok@gmail.com>; "Brian McGahan"
> > > <bmcgahan@internetworkexpert.com>; <
> > > asequeira@internetworkexpert.com>; <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > > Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 1:44 PM
> > > Subject: Re: IE Announcement
> > >
> > >
> > > are IE and cisco at war with ech other?? thats what i thaught after
> > > i saw
> > >> te
> > >> recrdin....
> > >>
> > >> On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 2:05 AM, Atlanta CCIE
> > >> <atlantaccie@gmail.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> http://www.ccietalk.com/2008/10/30/internetwork-expert-ccie-20 for
> > folks
> > >>> who
> > >>> missed it
> > >>> On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 5:55 PM, Narbik Kocharians
> > >>> <narbikk@gmail.com
> > >>> >wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> > unbelievable.....Unbelievable
> > >>> >
> > >>> > On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 12:59 PM, L. Jankok <ljankok@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >>> >
> > >>> > > Great, I am viewing :)
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > 2008/10/30 Brian McGahan <bmcgahan@internetworkexpert.com>
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > > The recording can be viewed here:
> > >>> > > > http://ieclass.internetworkexpert.com/p95047727/
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > More info will be posted on the details of the updates soon.
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > Thanks!
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > Brian McGahan, CCIE #8593 (R&S/SP/Security)
> > >>> > > > bmcgahan@internetworkexpert.com
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > Internetwork Expert, Inc.
> > >>> > > > http://www.InternetworkExpert.com
> <http://www.internetworkexp
> > >>> > > > ert.com/>
> > <http://www.internetworkexpert.com/>
> > >>> <http://www.internetworkexpert.com/><
> > >>> http://www.internetworkexpert.com/>
> > >>> > <
> > >>> > > http://www.internetworkexpert.com/>
> > >>> > > > Toll Free: 877-224-8987 x 705 Outside US: 775-826-4344 x 705
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > L. Jankok wrote:
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > I am viewing Diego now, together with my 3 year old son :D
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > 2008/10/30 Anthony Sequeira <asequeira@internetworkexpert.com>
> <
> > >>> > > asequeira@internetworkexpert.com>
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > So sorry you experienced a problem with your live viewing. We
> >
> > >
> > >>> > will
> > >>> be
> > >>> > > sure
> > >>> > > > to make the recording available to all very soon.
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > Warmest regards,
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > Anthony J. Sequeira, CCIE #15626, CCSI #23251
> > >>> > > > Senior CCIE Instructor
> > >>> > > > asequeira@internetworkexpert.com
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > Internetwork Expert, Inc.
> > >>> > > >
> http://www.InternetworkExpert.com <http://www.internetworkexpert.com/><
> http://www.internetworkexpert.com/>
> > <http://www.internetworkexpert.com/>
> > >>> <http://www.internetworkexpert.com/><
> > >>> http://www.internetworkexpert.com/>
> > >>> > <
> > >>> > > http://www.internetworkexpert.com/> <
> > >>> http://www.internetworkexpert.com/>
> > >>> > <
> > >>> > > http://www.internetworkexpert.com/>
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > Toll Free: 877-224-8987
> > >>> > > > Outside US: 775-826-4344
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > >>> > > > From: "L. Jankok" <ljankok@gmail.com> <ljankok@gmail.com>
> > >>> > > > Sent: Thu, October 30, 2008 12:55
> > >>> > > > Subject:Re: IE Announcement
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > Well... I was in watching the presentation, than my screen went
> >
> > >
> > >>> > blank
> > >>> > so
> > >>> > > I
> > >>> > > > hitted F5 and got a page telling me that the meeting
> > >>> > > > is already in progress.. pretty dissapointing :(
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > 2008/10/30 Atlanta CCIE <atlantaccie@gmail.com> <
> > >>> atlantaccie@gmail.com
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > I was not able to login either. Says recording will be
> > posted
> > >>> lol
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 2:02 PM, Mike Leske <
> > >>> mike.leske@googlemail.com
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > wrote:
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > I already got a mail stating that two many registered for the >
> >
> > >
> > >>> event.
> > >>> > > > I have to wait un
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > 2008/10/30 Andrew Dempsey <apdccie@gmail.com> <
> apdccie@gmail.com
> > >
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > Pretty sure the news will hit this list within minutes
> > >>> anyway.
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 1:52 PM, Ali Mousawi > > > <
> > >>> mousawi.ali@gmail.com>
> > >>> <
> > >>> > > mousawi.ali@gmail.com>
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > > > > wrote:
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > it seems no place for non IE customers :(
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 10:49 AM, Rick Mur <murserver@me.com>
> <
> > >>> > > murserver@me.com>
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > wrote:
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > Don't know if I break some NDA for it but:
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > >
> > http://ieclass.internetworkexpert.com/announcement/?launcher=false
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > log-in with your standard classroom account
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > On 30 okt 2008, at 18:46, Ali Mousawi wrote:
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > Hello,
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > Is the announcment in 15 mins? I signed up but how will i join
> i
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > didnt
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > get
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > any link?
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > >
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> > >>> > --
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> > >>> > CCSI#30832, CCIE# 12410 (R&S, SP, Security)
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> > >> Best Regards
> > >>
> > >> Mohammed Abdul Razzaq
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> If you are not small enough to loose, you are not big enough to win..
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