From: Joseph Brunner (joe@affirmedsystems.com)
Date: Mon Oct 27 2008 - 19:02:25 ARST
Trust me the traders are not leaving their terminals before market close at
which time they head to the sake bar's to get sloshed right off park avenue.
don't worry its not them.
It's the technical types that build the applications and design the system
arch that want to be on the core. why? Because they KNOW (correctly) that
that is the first thing we are going to keep running and fast. And that's
where they want their apps.
Its not just mom and pop operations (do mom and pop operations have $25B
A.U.M.?) I didn't think so.
I agree nothing should EVER be on the core, its just hard to convince
someone who paid $100,000 for a switch that I'm the only one who gets to
plug anything into it. oh, well once I clear the damn security lab I'll be
on the other side of the fence and I'll probably want my servers on the core
too. Darby- Get ready for my phone call, "Core boy"
-Joe
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From: Darby Weaver [mailto:ccie.weaver@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 4:59 PM
To: Joseph Brunner
Cc: Marko Milivojevic; Han Solo; Cisco certification
Subject: Re: Cat6500 HighAvailability Question
I might argue there is plenty of reason to not let them plug anything into
any port in the first place.
Where do you work that the execs and other departments are combing your
closets looking for spare ports?
Trust me it's not that hard to shut that port or better yet shut all unused
ports as a matter of policy in the first place.
It comes down to corporate culture.
If you are in a mom and pop type of operation... the owners/managers/users
may use and abuse your core.
If you work for a respectable sized shop with enlightened leadership, most
of your users may never know that you even have a 6500 in the core in the
first place.
Your mileage will vary.
On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 12:34 PM, Joseph Brunner <joe@affirmedsystems.com>
wrote:
I'm saying both... from the small private equity firm that has a good
relationship with cisco and bought 6509-E / sup-720's to the fortune 100...
Its hard to stop people from plugging stuff into that big cool box with 100
spare ports... ;)
So why try...
Let them do it... just have 2 sup's so I never get called...
:p
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Marko Milivojevic
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 12:15 PM
To: Joseph Brunner
Cc: Han Solo; Cisco certification
Subject: Re: Cat6500 HighAvailability Question
On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 16:09, Joseph Brunner <joe@affirmedsystems.com>
wrote:
>>Hardly an argument for 2x$45k+ ...
>
> Cisco/networking guys are usually the "last man on the deal team" in a big
> environment. Tell that price above to a millionaire PHD engineer with a
NYSE
> order routing server at a clearing member firm whose "server" he doesn't
> want connected to a 3750 on the 10th floor... he'll laugh, then tell you
go
> order 2 sup's!
Well, make up your mind, Joe! Are we talking about small/medium
company, or Fortune 500? :-). If we're talking about F500, then there
is a lot of reason to argument purchasing additional "datacenter
access" layer and things like that. No point in buying extra Sup's,
where they are not needed :-)
> I used to "fight the good fight" and try to convince people they should
not
> connected things to "the core"... it's a lost cause... I'm at a large
global
> company today with almost EVERYTHING connected to the "core", and yes,
> singly connected to the core, and yes they have 1 sup 720 in each
chassis...
>
> Tick tick tick tick
>
> ;(
Lovely sound... :-)
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