From: Andrew Dempsey (apdccie@gmail.com)
Date: Sun Oct 26 2008 - 18:16:39 ARST
Could someone clear up my confusion as to the advantage to the consumer of a
particular vendor being Cisco authorized, 360, etc? It is well known who
the leading vendors are along with their relative strengths and weaknesses.
A vendor being recognized by Cisco in some special form doesn't change this
understood level of competency in my mind at least. The main difference I
can see is whether or not the consumer pays Cisco flow through costs.
On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 12:37 PM, Anthony Faria <tfaria72@gmail.com> wrote:
> So is this like the lowest bidder thing Scott?
>
> Tony
>
> On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 12:45 PM, Scott Morris <
> smorris@internetworkexpert.com> wrote:
>
> > I think you replied to the wrong part of the thread. :)
> >
> > But yes, there's a level above/beyond the standard CLP/CCSI in order to
> > offer and teach the CCIE curriculum as well there should be.
> >
> > Brad simply meant to say that he PAYS ROYALTIES on his CCIE courses as
> > derivative work, not that there's actually anything "authorized" about
> > them.
> >
> > ;)
> >
> >
> > Scott Morris, CCIE4 #4713, JNCIE-M #153, JNCIS-ER, CISSP, et al.
> > CCSI/JNCI-M/JNCI-ER
> > Senior CCIE Instructor
> >
> > smorris@internetworkexpert.com
> >
> >
> >
> > Knowledge is power.
> > Power corrupts.
> > Study hard and be Eeeeviiiil......
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> > Narbik Kocharians
> > Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 11:41 AM
> > To: Anthony J Sequeira
> > Cc: Atlanta CCIE; Brad Ellis; Troy F.; Robert Dobre;
> > ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Subject: Re: Cisco 360 Learning Program for CCIE R&S
> >
> > As i mentioned before, the program is ONLY offered through Skyline-ATS,
> > Fast
> > Lane, Global Knowledge and CTT, and only certified instructors are
> allowed
> > to teach the class. The certified instructors must be a CCSI, but it does
> > NOT automatically qualify them to teach this class.
> > and by the way THERE IS NO CERTIFIED CCIE COURSE and i don't care who you
> > are, that is 100 percent false today.
> >
> > On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 8:30 AM, Anthony J Sequeira <
> > asequeira@internetworkexpert.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I am a little embarrassed that my employers are about to make such a
> > > big deal about my passing the CCIE Security Written.
> > >
> > > Anthony J. Sequeira
> > > CCIE Security, Written
> > >
> > > ;-)
> > >
> > >
> > > On 10/25/08 10:19 AM, "Atlanta CCIE" <atlantaccie@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > "I did hear that Brian applied to become a CLP, so it's possible
> > > > he'll be offering it too."
> > > > So that might be the major announcement coming next week from IE :-D
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 8:30 AM, Brad Ellis <brad@ccbootcamp.com>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> NMC is the only one advertising the program that I can find. We are
> > > >> working with Cisco now on the possibilities of offering the program.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Fyi - CCBOOTCAMP has been a Cisco authorized training partner for
> > > >> over seven years now. Our current CCIE training programs are
> > > >> approved by Cisco as derivative works.
> > > >>
> > > >> thanks,
> > > >> Brad Ellis
> > > >> CCIE#5796 (R&S / Security)
> > > >> CCSI# 30482
> > > >> CEO / President
> > > >> CCBOOTCAMP - A Cisco Sponsored Organization (SO)
> > > >> Email: brad@ccbootcamp.com
> > > >> Toll Free: 877-654-2243
> > > >> Direct: +1-702-968-5100 = Outside the USA
> > > >> FAX: +1-702-446-8012
> > > >> YES! We take Cisco Learning Credits!
> > > >> Training And Remote Racks: http://www.ccbootcamp.com
> > > >>
> > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > >> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On
> > > >> Behalf Of Troy F.
> > > >> Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 10:47 PM
> > > >> To: Robert Dobre
> > > >> Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > >> Subject: Re: Cisco 360 Learning Program for CCIE R&S
> > > >>
> > > >> Looks Like NMC has released their offerings:
> > > >> http://blog.netmasterclass.net/?p=34
> > > >>
> > > >> Has anyone registered for that program yet? Since that is a Cisco
> > > >> program can you buy it from Cisco or should we do it though a
> > > >> vendor?
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks,
> > > >> Troy
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> On 10/23/08, Robert Dobre <robert.dobre@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Group,
> > > >>>
> > > >>> As Cisco recently announced there is a learning program called
> > > >>> Cisco
> > > >> 360
> > > >>> that will be available starting November 1st.
> > > >>> As a result of that, I saw that Internetworkexpert started the
> > > >> registration
> > > >>> for the Assestment Lab (plus a major anouncement for early next
> > > >>> week)
> > > >> and
> > > >>> Netmasterclass closed the online store anouncing the offering of
> > > >>> the
> > > >> new
> > > >>> Cisco 360 learning program.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I am wondering how will affect this new program the offer of the
> > > >> existing
> > > >>> CCIE learning providers.
> > > >>> Is Internetwork expert going to finalize the Lab workbook 1 v5 ?
> > > >>> Will we be able to book existing Mock labs to the CCIE providers?
> > > >>> Will we have a transition to the unified learning structure?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> How do you see it ?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Please find below the Official mesage:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> *Available November 1st: Cisco 360 Learning Program for CCIE
> > > >>> Routing
> > > >> and
> > > >>> Switching*
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Designed to help high potential network professionals transform
> > > >>> into certified network experts, the Cisco 360 Learning Program for
> > > >>> CCIE
> > > >> Routing
> > > >>> and Switching is the first Cisco authorized learning program for
> > > >> expert
> > > >>> training. The Cisco 360 Learning Program for CCIE Routing and
> > > >>> Switching prepares networking professionals for the challenges of
> > > >> managing
> > > >>> sophisticated networks as well as the configuration and
> > > >> troubleshooting
> > > >>> scenarios found on CCIE examinations.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> The Cisco 360 Learning Program is a six-month blended learning
> > > >> experience
> > > >>> incorporating advanced skills assessments, targeted learning
> > > >>> modules, instructor-led training, mentoring and hands-on practice
> > > >>> and
> > > >> assessement
> > > >>> labs to accelerate expert-level competency. The Cisco 360 Learning
> > > >> Program
> > > >>> will be made available through select authorized Cisco Learning
> > > >>> Partners<
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > > http://ciscocert.custhelp.com/rd?1=AvcG~wpVDv8SU6X3Gu0e~yL~Jvkq~x~~&2=
> <
> http://ciscocert.custhelp.com/rd?1=AvcG%7EwpVDv8SU6X3Gu0e%7EyL%7EJvkq%7Ex%7E%7E&2=
> >
> > > 13
> > > >> 48
> > > >>>>
> > > >>> .
> > > >>>
> > > >>> For more information, visit Cisco 360 Learning Program for CCIE
> > > >> Routing and
> > > >>> Switching.<
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > > http://ciscocert.custhelp.com/rd?1=AvcG~wpVDv8SU6X3Gu0e~yL~Jvkq~x~~&2=
> <
> http://ciscocert.custhelp.com/rd?1=AvcG%7EwpVDv8SU6X3Gu0e%7EyL%7EJvkq%7Ex%7E%7E&2=
> >
> > > 14
> > > >> 07
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Regards,
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Robert
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
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> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> --
> > > >> HTH,
> > > >> Troy - one day a CCIE :-)
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