From: Jonny English (redkidneybeans@gmail.com)
Date: Wed Oct 15 2008 - 05:28:30 ART
hehe, I was only joking.
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 3:58 PM, Darby Weaver <ccie.weaver@gmail.com> wrote:
> Not at all.
>
> I think the posts that I got kicked from the Island never made it to the
> island and we are past that.
>
> Now this initial post has to do with a query that was posted about Cisco's
> upcoming CCIE Program changes. Some of which contain the Cisco 360
> Program.
>
> I just posted a speculation as to what it sounds like.
>
> So no I don't think this is even remotely close be comparison.
>
> Paul correct me if I'm mistaken. BTW - We need to talk about some things
> and I think you may like it. I'm tied up pretty tight this week but would
> like to speak to you next week if you have time.
>
> On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 10:46 PM, Jonny English <redkidneybeans@gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
>> Darby,
>>
>> Isn't it this type of post that got you, as we are saying now - kicked of
>> the Island /joke ;)
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 1:00 PM, Darby Weaver <ccie.weaver@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> NetworkWorld has announced that Cisco will soon unveil its CCIE training
>>> program <http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/33978> for the
>>> Routing
>>>
>>> and Switching track. It looks like it will be called the "Cisco 360
>>> Learning Program for CCIE - Routing and Switching".
>>>
>>> *Cisco Tuesday rolled out Cisco 360 Learning Program for CCIE - Routing
>>> and
>>> Switching, a six-month program that incorporates e-learning and hands-on
>>> practice labs to accelerate expert-level competency. The program is
>>> designed
>>> to run head-on against third-party boot camps, which Cisco says are not
>>> up
>>> to par(you'll be able to read more about Cisco's thoughts on this in
>>> Network
>>> World's IT Careers & Training newsletter on Wednesday). The program will
>>> be
>>> made available through select authorized Cisco Learning Partners and
>>> consist
>>> of pre-assessments, six online classes covering topics such as IPv6, QoS,
>>> Frame Relay, Border Gateway Protocol and switching, instructor-led
>>> workshops, practice labs and mentoring. The courses start at $5,000 but
>>> can
>>> reach to double-digits for the mentorship features.*
>>>
>>> **
>>>
>>> Basically here's the skinny:
>>>
>>> There was a competiton or bid of sorts between the major vendors.
>>>
>>> It seems NMC won the bid. Maybe others but we'll see in a few days. As
>>> of
>>> now just NMC that I am aware of.
>>>
>>> The training program will be based on the NMC-1 Advanced CCIE 1-Week
>>> Class
>>> currently offered by NMC.
>>>
>>> The pre-assessments are similar to NMC's per-technology quick exams -
>>> currently less than 15Q each as I recall - correct me it's been a while
>>> since I tried one.
>>>
>>> The pre-assessment will be similar to the CCIE Accessor or the Day-1 Lab
>>> given by NMC on the first day of class.
>>>
>>> The online classes will likely mimick and/or mirror the NMC Video on
>>> Demand,
>>> which consequently in some cases are quite "exactly" similar to the NMC
>>> Tech
>>> Library which is quite "exactly" similar to the NMC-1 one-week CCIE
>>> Bootcamp. This material is nearly word-for-word verbatim to the class as
>>> I
>>> recall.
>>>
>>> The practice labs will likely be very much the CheckIT Labs with the
>>> CheckIT
>>> grading system.
>>>
>>> Anyone from back in the day who used Mentor Technologies VLabs will
>>> recall
>>> the format and layout.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If you can still by the Tech Library for $149.00 it is probably the best
>>> deal going since you get the material that this system will be based on.
>>>
>>> With all of this said:
>>>
>>> NMC's approach to tackling a lab is perhaps the most scientific and well
>>> thought-out and planned in the industry. I think few will contest this.
>>> Caslow coined the term "The Golden Moment".
>>>
>>> The CheckIT Lab Grading System is probably among the best grading and
>>> feedback system in the business.
>>>
>>> The knowledge level of the NMC Team is enormous and easily one of the
>>> best
>>> "Brainshares" in the business and every vendor without exception respects
>>> NMC above all their other competition.
>>>
>>> The scientific method that they employee is freely available for viewing
>>> and
>>> really tells the story of how to approach the lab in a very clear and
>>> concise manner.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> What else can I tell you? Wait and see if I'm right or wrong?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> However, I'm not sure that at $5000.00 to $20,000.00 for mentorships it
>>> will
>>> be able to beat InternetworkExpert End-to-End CCIE Learning Program,
>>> IPExperts Blended Learning Solution for the CCIE, or Narbik's $2000.00
>>> "Till
>>> You Pass" limited time offer.
>>>
>>> And there are others.
>>>
>>> Also while the team at NMC is quite superior in terms of sheer knowledge
>>> and
>>> presentation, I would be curious to see if this knowledge can be scaled
>>> to
>>> the level that such an announcement might presume.
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
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>>
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>
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