RE: CCIE, i wish to take a different path !

From: Jeffrey Fry (Jeff@FryGuy.Net)
Date: Sun Oct 05 2008 - 20:02:58 ART


I do this stuff for a living and I still needed the workbooks. Why you
might ask and the answer is simple - there are things that you may be
tested on that you may never see in the real world.

When you work for a company you typically do much of the same thing,
standard routing protocols, standard redistribution, standard
spanning-tree stuff, etc ( standard as in corporate standard). When
you go for the lab you need to have a deep understanding of much more of
the technologies then you would on a day to day basis.

The workbooks by the vendors allow you to focus on a technology, drill
down to the core of it, and then move on. They help you to understand,
and in the end you turn out to be a better engineer because of it.

Do not be afraid of them; do not use them as your sole source either.
Use them in a tool in your arsenal for the test as well as the real
world.

I feel this way so much that I have not retired my workbooks after
passing but will go through them from time to time to reinforce my
understanding and knowledge. It also helps me to teach others how
things work as I have the labs from them to modify and use to help my
coworkers. In the end, we are all better for it.

Just my 02 cents.

-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Ovais Iqbal
Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2008 1:44 PM
To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: CCIE, i wish to take a different path !

Hi all, first of all i mean no disrespect to the gurus who are helping
CCIEs a
lot, namely IE, IPexpert, Narbik and others,
mostly when i read the success stories, one point is present in all of
them, x
months configuring the routers using x vendors workbooks, i just want to
know
something very simple, can some one pass the lab without these workbooks
? can
someone suggest me a path that i shall take if i dont want to use any of
the
vendors ? right now i think getting CCIE is not a challenge any more, no
offense, but thats the truth, look around and you will see a hell lot
increase
in the production of CCIE as never seen before, i know more and more ppl
are
inclined towards it but i think the real challenge is to take the lab
without
using any of the workbooks, ( again no offense to the latest CCIEs, i
respect
them all :-) ),
 
Is there anyone who took the lab without using any vendors, can he/she
shed
some light on his/her preparation ??
 
Thanks

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