Re: More easy exams, more difficult exams, is true??

From: Darby Weaver (ccie.weaver@gmail.com)
Date: Wed Oct 01 2008 - 14:49:17 ART


The real exam comes at the interview when you are surrounded by 2-3 or more
seasoned engineers and they ask you all this stuff you think you know and
know you knew and should be second nature by now.

And the wording is not exactly as you might expect. The example given is
not quite right. Sometimes their illustration of the problem is flawed,
sometimes your is.

It happens all the time when we work on things too. One day we see a
problem that we did not see of months before. We pick and choose our
battles. Sometime we lend our efforts to the "easy" stuff a little too
often.

Or we neglect to study a topic we "know well" but not not quite entirely.

It happens.

One thing is certain, the more we read, practice, and subject ourselves to a
wider variety of scenarios the better prepared we are to take on the
challenges of mostly any given network on any given day.

On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 3:53 AM, CCIE3000 <ccie3000@googlemail.com> wrote:

> Well, I took four. In my opion some were easy some were hard.
>
> Horses for Courses !!
>
> I think if you've had some very good training for two weeks on top of your
> reading certain exams would seem easy. Then again others I took could bring
> a grown man to cry and speaking with the other guys afterwards they thought
> the same.
>
> Then again, in my mock's I always did much better in the harder
> ones...hmmm...for each person certain things seem easier.
>
> At the end of the day, if you don't know your stuff you aren't going to
> pass the exam, tellos!!
>
> On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 9:58 AM, Calin Chiorean <calin.chiorean@ezeea.com
> > wrote:
>
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>> Hello all!
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>> Jonny, this thing with "...the whole lab was almost too easy..." is
>> something that is on my mind for a long time.
>> I wanted to understand how come, somebody that made this affirmation
>> after he/she taking the CCIE lab (or pretend that he/she did), could
>> not answer some more simple questions that I put to him/her (personal
>> discussion over the net). I think there are some persons that after
>> taking this exam would prefer that nobody else to be able to take it,
>> so his value on the market to keep high or even to increase, and then
>> they make this kind of affirmation in a feeback to Cisco or others.
>> Of course that if the person that take this exams, and make this kind
>> of affirmation, is a person that stand 24hours in from of rack and
>> have no social and personal life, will know more that I do, which I'm
>> hard worker, I try to learn a lot, but also prefer that at the weekend
>> to take my dog for a walk or to take some photography in the nature.In
>> this context it is normal that the knowledge requested in the exam
>> compared to the all knowledge that he/she have make this exam to be
>> not so hard. But nevertheless, this exam (like any other exams) is
>> made to test your knowledge in some areas. If you know more, that is
>> excellent for you and for your career.
>> To say that this exam was too easy is a little bit exagerate. Compare
>> to what it was to easy? To your personal knowledge, to other exams
>> that's on the market...?
>> As I understood there are differences between that labs that you could
>> get during the CCIE exam, and you can get and "easy" one or a "hard"
>> one. But this is also subjective, because maybe some of us have better
>> skills and understanding in QOS and other in routing. If the lab you
>> get is focus more on your personal abilities than you have luck and
>> I'm glad for you.
>> I'm sorry if my lines are considered to be an offence by some of you,
>> and I appologize, but this is my personal opinion.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Calin
>>
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>> On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 8:33 AM, Jonny English <redkidneybeans@gmail.com
>> >wrote:
>>
>> > "The most/best prepared sometimes say the whole lab was almost too
>> easy."
>> >
>> > Isn't this the way it should be? ;)
>> >
>> > On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 5:58 AM, Darby Weaver <ccie.weaver@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > They all look very easy when you get you get started. It's how hard
>> they
>> > > look after you've worked on it all day.
>> > >
>> > > I'd have to say all exams I've taken to date are comparable in
>> > difficulty.
>> > > The labs with more switches are a degree more interesting that when
>> there
>> > > were only 2 switches.
>> > >
>> > > And if you get the luxury of more than one attempt each visit might
>> seem
>> > > easier than the last, though I have heard the opposite.
>> > >
>> > > The most/best prepared sometimes say the whole lab was almost too
>> easy.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 10:45 AM, dave dave <funccie@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > HI Razl,
>> > > >
>> > > > Exam is getting more & more diffuclt its looks easy on second
>> attempt
>> > > than
>> > > > first :)
>> > > > Its surely diffcult than IE grade labs
>> > > >
>> > > > Regards
>> > > > Dave
>> > > >
>> > > > On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 8:08 PM, Razl Morata Calvo
>> > > > <raul.morata@gmail.com>wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > Hi friends,
>> > > > >
>> > > > > I have some friends that they have passed the CCIE R&S first time,
>> > and
>> > > > they
>> > > > > say that lab exam now is more asy that, don4t know, for example,
>> ine
>> > > year
>> > > > > ago...
>> > > > > Do you know this??
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Best regards.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Razl.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
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