From: Joseph Brunner (joe@affirmedsystems.com)
Date: Tue Sep 30 2008 - 19:58:51 ART
I actually lied earlier by mistake- 10 minutes after I posted that my class
was off, the school's owner convinced me he has found enough serious
candidates to make the class again. Out of respect for Paul, and GS I won't
promote any classes here, but I'm sure you guys get the point about testking
and all and how its best to start the Grueling hands-on early when your not
dropping $3000 each time you drive 1000 miles to North Carolina or flying
2900 to SJ! (LOL)
Chris Bryant's material is great. My former noc staff at my last full time
job read his materials exhaustively for their CCNA studies and they were
delighted.
Thanks,
Joe
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Darby Weaver
Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 6:37 PM
To: Muhammad Nasim
Cc: Andrew Dempsey; Joseph Brunner; Scott Morris; Thornton, John A. CTR;
ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: Experience with CCNP Netmetric-Solutions
I don't want to sound too biased these days. But my friend JB does have a
point - there are a lot of people simply passing exams without the requisite
knowledge.
Now... JB shared with my his CCNP labs and they are pretty decent and do
cover the materials at least from a practical stand point.
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Anyone ever taken adavantage of Chris Bryant? He's got some demo's for
CCNA/CCNP level material that is explained in an easy to use / practical
hands-on perspsective. Clean and crisp.
He does not cover all the CCIE points in his lectures, but he does seem to
cover enough to make anyone who is having doubts go over and take a look.
He said he had a mision and I think he achieved his mission statement.
Others will have an 800-pound gorilla on their hands if this guy ever
decides to jump on the CCIE bandwagon.
Right now, he does CCNA/CCNP and does it well from my take. Many little
things asked on this list daily are delivered very well by Mr. Bryant.
So if you did take the written and the clock is ticking... see for
yourself, he has free demos.
No. I do not work for him. I bought his CCNA Advantage once upon a time
while I was renewing it. I recently had a look for myself at his demos and
was impressed.
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There are other vendors here who's packages offer a similar content to his
materials.
On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 3:03 PM, Muhammad Nasim
<muhammad.nasim@gmail.com>wrote:
> But in my case I love teaching I love to give whatever knowledge I have
and
> whatever also I can learn I teach very loudly with lot of emotions.
> Teaching HONESTLY is really a difficult JOB.
>
>
>
> 2008/9/30 Andrew Dempsey <apdccie@gmail.com>
>
> > I completely agree with Joe that a real CCNP bootcamp would be very
> useful
> > for a lot of people. For the majority of peopleand various reasons the
> > CCIE level will just never be a priority. However that does not mean
> they
> > do not want to learn. I also unfortunately know quite a few people in
> that
> > many people who have gone to non mainstream CCIE vendor bootcamps end up
> > with essentially a $4000 testking or 5 $800 rack sessions.
> >
> > If the original poster is already at a CCIE Written Level then I agree
> with
> > Scott that why take a CCNP bootcamp and not push yourself to see how far
> you
> > can go. All of the vendors I know of have retake policies so I would
say
> be
> > ready going in, but if you werent quite you can retake and at least you
> know
> > what the next level you need to get to is.
> >
> > Andrew
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 11:37 AM, Joseph Brunner <
> joe@affirmedsystems.com>wrote:
> >
> >> Yes, because I stopped teaching... ;) I can promote anything I want
that
> >> no
> >> longer exists!
> >>
> >> I have moved on...
> >>
> >>
> >> I felt like I was speaking Greek too many times to be a teacher...
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> >> Muhammad Nasim
> >> Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 11:23 AM
> >> To: Joseph Brunner
> >> Cc: Scott Morris; Thornton, John A. CTR; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> >> Subject: Re: Experience with CCNP Netmetric-Solutions
> >>
> >> hey Paul are we allow to do Serious Marketting here or Joe got special
> >> privilieges : )
> >>
> >>
> >> 2008/9/30 Joseph Brunner <joe@affirmedsystems.com>
> >>
> >> > Then you have never been to my CCNP bootcamp... it's probably harder
> >> than
> >> > how many "CCIE's" use the tech in the real world in most networks...
> >> >
> >> > I try make CCNP labs for a real CCNP who can independently operate
and
> >> > troubleshoot a large live complex network, with vpn, multicast, qos,
> >> etc.
> >> >
> >> > I'm thinking Scott, many guys use testking or actualtests for the
CCIE
> >> > written, bloat their ego's, then hit the gear for their lab studies,
> >> only
> >> > to
> >> > find out they don't have any chance at even doing the IE level
labs...
> >> >
> >> > -Joe
> >> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> Of
> >> > Scott Morris
> >> > Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 8:58 AM
> >> > To: 'Thornton, John A. CTR'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> >> > Subject: RE: Experience with CCNP Netmetric-Solutions
> >> >
> >> > Would there be a point in going to a CCNP bootcamp after you have
> passed
> >> > your CCIE R&S Written exam, which you stated in order to join the
CCIE
> >> Lab
> >> > mailing list?
> >> >
> >> > Whether it's Netmetric Solutions or not, I'm not sure it's worth the
> >> > time/money, but that just my opinion.
> >> >
> >> > Scott
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> Of
> >> > Thornton, John A. CTR
> >> > Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 4:12 AM
> >> > To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> >> > Subject: Experience with CCNP Netmetric-Solutions
> >> >
> >> > All,
> >> >
> >> > I'm seriously considering going to netmetric-solutions CCNP boot camp
> >> and
> >> > was wondering if anyone has heard, or experienced, anything good/bad
> >> with
> >> > there training.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Thanks,
> >> >
> >> > John
> >> >
> >> >
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> >> >
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