Re: Please advise, I have 1 month to LAB

From: Ronnie Angello (ronnie.angello@gmail.com)
Date: Sun Sep 28 2008 - 16:35:14 ART

I know that you really wanted to hear from the instructors, and they
are all true experts, but let me suggest some stuff that I did in my
last month of prep. I have to recommend the Cisco Assessor labs, but
I wouldn't worry about working through any additional labs at this
point. Read through the Doc CD, or whatever we're using these days,
and build your own mini scenarios.

Focus on the command references and understand each and every command.
 With one week to go start to slow down a little bit and don't study
the day before your lab. It sounds like you have worked very hard and
you're almost ready, so just build up your confidence a bit and go and
get your number. Good luck.

Ronnie

On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 12:43 PM, Darby Weaver <ccie.weaver@gmail.com> wrote:
> Good advice - especially on working on your weakest links. I know I tend to
> falter here and build on my stronger points. But working on the weaker
> sections and getting the give-me points can easily add up to 2-3 points per
> "weak section".
>
> Now do the math:
>
> 3 Weak Section = 3 x 2|3 = 6-9 points.
>
> If you have more weak sections you can get the biggest rate of return in
> terms of points.
>
> And lots of people fail the exam by a mere 5-10 points.
>
>
> Remember strategy is important.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 9:06 AM, Scott Morris <swm@emanon.com> wrote:
>
>> Yeah! How could you forget about me? :)
>>
>> Honestly though, I think the conversation has degraded to the point about
>> not being about individuals any longer. Other than Reza anyway, as he's
>> the
>> one who asked for advice!
>>
>> The best thing with any task is to break it down into stages. Multicast is
>> not necessarily easy to configure, hence it's an area that causes
>> confusion.
>> That and it's not a "regular" topic in everyone's network design unlike
>> basic routing! :)
>>
>> But can you break things down into simple tasks or stags? Absolutely!
>>
>> Asking people on here is one good way.... Getting one on one mentoring is
>> another way... (Which, by the way, I wouldn't view as a waste of time at
>> all! But it may not be the "magic pill" either!) Going to a bootcamp,
>> where you can ask questions of an instructor sort-of-one-on-one would be
>> another way.
>>
>> Oh yeah, almost forgot. OR, you can do it completely by yourself. The
>> reference books listed are good ones and contain the information, but not
>> necessarily the best way to parse it. That's what takes practice! And
>> playing around, and making lots of notes, and perhaps messing things up a
>> few times!
>>
>> But those are the things that will cause you to "never forget" the
>> information.
>>
>> No matter which vendor you do or do not go with, make sure that things
>> jive
>> with your way of thinking!
>>
>> For the Last-Month preparation, I would spend MOST of my time with the
>> topics you don't know well. Divide and Conquer. Break things up in stages
>> that will at least gain SOME of the points! For example, topics like
>> multicast will most likely be two to three separate point sections. You
>> can
>> make sure to get your basic points (two out of three?) by knowing the
>> basics
>> well. The more advanced part, you may look up. Or worst case, you may not
>> get. But on the flip side, out of the (example) 8 points for multicast in
>> the lab perhaps you can at least get 4-5 of them so that the overall hit
>> isn't that bad!
>>
>> Don't get hung up on the quantity of details though. Create your own
>> hierarchical learning method of the topics.
>>
>> Overall, relax! Take whatever help you can! If it doesn't work, smile and
>> move to the next method! :)
>>
>>
>> Scott Morris, CCIE4 #4713, JNCIE-M #153, JNCIS-ER, CISSP, et al.
>> CCSI/JNCI-M/JNCI-ER
>> Senior CCIE Instructor
>>
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>> Knowledge is power.
>> Power corrupts.
>> Study hard and be Eeeeviiiil......
>>
>> PS. It's ok if you forget about me... I won't take it too personally! :)
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
>> Ramy
>> Sisy
>> Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 8:11 PM
>> To: 'Narbik Kocharians'; asequeira@internetworkexpert.com
>> Cc: ramysisy@inspiredmaster.com; reza@toghraee.com; ccielab@groupstudy.com
>> Subject: RE: Please advise, I have 1 month to LAB
>>
>> Common Narbik, please do not take it personally :)
>>
>> You forgot Scott Morris too, how could you forget him :)
>>
>> Hehehehe
>>
>>
>>
>> -Ramy
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
>> Narbik Kocharians
>> Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 4:32 PM
>> To: asequeira@internetworkexpert.com
>> Cc: ramysisy@inspiredmaster.com; reza@toghraee.com; ccielab@groupstudy.com
>> Subject: Re: Please advise, I have 1 month to LAB
>>
>> Reza,
>>
>> The last thing you want to do is waist your time with one on one .......,
>> let me know if you really want to understand the stuff and i will show you
>> how its done, If you are going to do one on one and still use IE, i would
>> go
>> with Brians or Petr.
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 9:49 AM, Anthony Sequeira <
>> asequeira@internetworkexpert.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi weak areas, and I quote, are "I know I have gaps in QOS, Multicast"
>> >
>> > No need for concern Narbik, I will be working with him one on one
>> > until his lab date.
>> >
>> > Anthony J. Sequeira, CCIE #15626, CCSI #23251 Senior CCIE Instructor
>> >
>> > asequeira@internetworkexpert.com
>> >
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>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: narbikk@gmail.com
>> > Sent: Fri, September 26, 2008 18:02
>> > Subject:Re: Please advise, I have 1 month to LAB
>> >
>> >
>> > Reza,
>> >
>> > What are your weak areas??????
>> >
>> > On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 3:40 PM, Ramy Sisy
>> > <ramysisy@inspiredmaster.com>wrote:
>> >
>> > > Hi Reza,
>> > > Here is the fact that you are afraid of and I am sure nobody else
>> > > will
>> > say
>> > > it to you "YOU will fail miserably", after you walk out of the exam
>> > > you will feel that you shoot yourself in the foot and the exam was
>> > > achievable.
>> You
>> > > will study for a month and come back to pass it in 4 hours.
>> > >
>> > > So why do you have to shoot yourself in the foot for the first time.
>> > > More than 50% of the CCIE exam is how you handle your pressure/ stress.
>> > > Please look at your positive points. You know that if you will not
>> > > even touch QoS and Multicast, you will be able to pass because both
>> > > sections
>> > are
>> > > no more than 15 points in the exam.
>> > >
>> > > I believe you do not need any bootcamps/extra material, and please
>> > > do
>> not
>> > > get me wrong, Narbik is a phenomenal Instructor and a very close
>> > > friend
>> > of
>> > > mine. All what you need is to relief your stress out and think
>> > positively.
>> > > - never mind about not working right now and think about how much
>> > > time
>> > you
>> > > can dedicate for your study. You can give between 300-400 hours in
>> > > the remaining month. Make use of your time and try to find people
>> > > are
>> willing
>> > > to
>> > > help like this group.
>> > > - never mind to impress your x manager, or GS members, or your x
>> > > colleagues at work... by passing from 1st attempt. Thinking to
>> > > impress others is
>> > just
>> > > adding more pressure however nobody will see you falling in your 1st
>> > > attempt.
>> > > - never mind about your weak technologies because you still have
>> > > time
>> to
>> > > study everything from scratch BUT WITH CLEAR/UNSTRESSED MIND.
>> > >
>> > > I developed a stress reliever formula and called it 80/20 CCIE
>> > Preparation
>> > > method.
>> > > http://inspiredk.com/2008/08/26/the-8020-ccie-preparation-method/
>> > >
>> > > Feel free to contact me if you have any inquires.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > BEST REGARDS,
>> > >
>> > > RAMY SISY | CCIE II (SECURITY, ROUTING/SWITCHING)#17321, CCSI#30417
>> > > CCIE PROGRAM MANAGER
>> > >
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>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
>> > > Of Reza Toghraee
>> > > Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 11:26 AM
>> > > To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
>> > > Subject: Please advise, I have 1 month to LAB
>> > >
>> > > Hello
>> > >
>> > > I need all of you people who already done this way to advise me.
>> > > Especially
>> > > the great instructors in the group.
>> > > I have 1 month to the LAB, it's my first attempt. I already got a
>> > > leave from my job, so I have full 1 month to be prepared.
>> > >
>> > > I have too much stress!
>> > >
>> > > Since 2 months ago, I increased my study times, to around 6 to 8
>> > > hours per day.
>> > >
>> > > I reviewed all the IE COD as my second time, I wrote all the tips,
>> > > and I try to read them randomly.
>> > >
>> > > I done the IE WB VOL1, 2 times, I know that I still have some gaps
>> > > on QOS, especially on 3550, 3560 QOS.
>> > >
>> > > I'm still doing the IE VOL2 labs, I done till LAB 16. I do it
>> > > slowly, I try to solve myself and whenever I learn anything new, I
>> > > write it down and then I attach on the wall of my room, at the
>> > > moment there are lots of papers on my wall, and every day I read
>> > > them to memorize.
>> > >
>> > > I have the printed version of 3560 docs, I already read most of the
>> > > chapters and I did my notes.
>> > >
>> > > I know I have gaps in QOS, Multicast, I don't want to get lost in
>> > > multicast in the LAB, sometimes I spend a lot of time for doing the
>> > > multicast
>> > >
>> > > what I have in my library :
>> > > 1) Doyell books
>> > > 2) R&amp;S exam certi guide (odom)
>> > > 3) QOS exam cert guide (odom) (I didn't read)
>> > > 4) many printed documents about QOS, Multicast which I got from a
>> > > good friend. (just organized, not read yet)
>> > >
>> > > I donno, I have to continue doing the labs, or stop, just read, or
>> > > IE COD, or Narbik?? I'm not familiar with Narbik.
>> > > I plan to do IE mock labs on every Thursday .
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Please kindly Advise.
>> > >
>> > > Thanks
>> > > Reza Toghraee
>> > >
>> > >
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