From: Darby Weaver (ccie.weaver@gmail.com)
Date: Sun Sep 28 2008 - 13:43:33 ART
Good advice - especially on working on your weakest links. I know I tend to
falter here and build on my stronger points. But working on the weaker
sections and getting the give-me points can easily add up to 2-3 points per
"weak section".
Now do the math:
3 Weak Section = 3 x 2|3 = 6-9 points.
If you have more weak sections you can get the biggest rate of return in
terms of points.
And lots of people fail the exam by a mere 5-10 points.
Remember strategy is important.
On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 9:06 AM, Scott Morris <swm@emanon.com> wrote:
> Yeah! How could you forget about me? :)
>
> Honestly though, I think the conversation has degraded to the point about
> not being about individuals any longer. Other than Reza anyway, as he's
> the
> one who asked for advice!
>
> The best thing with any task is to break it down into stages. Multicast is
> not necessarily easy to configure, hence it's an area that causes
> confusion.
> That and it's not a "regular" topic in everyone's network design unlike
> basic routing! :)
>
> But can you break things down into simple tasks or stags? Absolutely!
>
> Asking people on here is one good way.... Getting one on one mentoring is
> another way... (Which, by the way, I wouldn't view as a waste of time at
> all! But it may not be the "magic pill" either!) Going to a bootcamp,
> where you can ask questions of an instructor sort-of-one-on-one would be
> another way.
>
> Oh yeah, almost forgot. OR, you can do it completely by yourself. The
> reference books listed are good ones and contain the information, but not
> necessarily the best way to parse it. That's what takes practice! And
> playing around, and making lots of notes, and perhaps messing things up a
> few times!
>
> But those are the things that will cause you to "never forget" the
> information.
>
> No matter which vendor you do or do not go with, make sure that things
> jive
> with your way of thinking!
>
> For the Last-Month preparation, I would spend MOST of my time with the
> topics you don't know well. Divide and Conquer. Break things up in stages
> that will at least gain SOME of the points! For example, topics like
> multicast will most likely be two to three separate point sections. You
> can
> make sure to get your basic points (two out of three?) by knowing the
> basics
> well. The more advanced part, you may look up. Or worst case, you may not
> get. But on the flip side, out of the (example) 8 points for multicast in
> the lab perhaps you can at least get 4-5 of them so that the overall hit
> isn't that bad!
>
> Don't get hung up on the quantity of details though. Create your own
> hierarchical learning method of the topics.
>
> Overall, relax! Take whatever help you can! If it doesn't work, smile and
> move to the next method! :)
>
>
> Scott Morris, CCIE4 #4713, JNCIE-M #153, JNCIS-ER, CISSP, et al.
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> Power corrupts.
> Study hard and be Eeeeviiiil......
>
> PS. It's ok if you forget about me... I won't take it too personally! :)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Ramy
> Sisy
> Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 8:11 PM
> To: 'Narbik Kocharians'; asequeira@internetworkexpert.com
> Cc: ramysisy@inspiredmaster.com; reza@toghraee.com; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: Please advise, I have 1 month to LAB
>
> Common Narbik, please do not take it personally :)
>
> You forgot Scott Morris too, how could you forget him :)
>
> Hehehehe
>
>
>
> -Ramy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Narbik Kocharians
> Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 4:32 PM
> To: asequeira@internetworkexpert.com
> Cc: ramysisy@inspiredmaster.com; reza@toghraee.com; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: Please advise, I have 1 month to LAB
>
> Reza,
>
> The last thing you want to do is waist your time with one on one .......,
> let me know if you really want to understand the stuff and i will show you
> how its done, If you are going to do one on one and still use IE, i would
> go
> with Brians or Petr.
>
> On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 9:49 AM, Anthony Sequeira <
> asequeira@internetworkexpert.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi weak areas, and I quote, are "I know I have gaps in QOS, Multicast"
> >
> > No need for concern Narbik, I will be working with him one on one
> > until his lab date.
> >
> > Anthony J. Sequeira, CCIE #15626, CCSI #23251 Senior CCIE Instructor
> >
> > asequeira@internetworkexpert.com
> >
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> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: narbikk@gmail.com
> > Sent: Fri, September 26, 2008 18:02
> > Subject:Re: Please advise, I have 1 month to LAB
> >
> >
> > Reza,
> >
> > What are your weak areas??????
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 3:40 PM, Ramy Sisy
> > <ramysisy@inspiredmaster.com>wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Reza,
> > > Here is the fact that you are afraid of and I am sure nobody else
> > > will
> > say
> > > it to you "YOU will fail miserably", after you walk out of the exam
> > > you will feel that you shoot yourself in the foot and the exam was
> > > achievable.
> You
> > > will study for a month and come back to pass it in 4 hours.
> > >
> > > So why do you have to shoot yourself in the foot for the first time.
> > > More than 50% of the CCIE exam is how you handle your pressure/ stress.
> > > Please look at your positive points. You know that if you will not
> > > even touch QoS and Multicast, you will be able to pass because both
> > > sections
> > are
> > > no more than 15 points in the exam.
> > >
> > > I believe you do not need any bootcamps/extra material, and please
> > > do
> not
> > > get me wrong, Narbik is a phenomenal Instructor and a very close
> > > friend
> > of
> > > mine. All what you need is to relief your stress out and think
> > positively.
> > > - never mind about not working right now and think about how much
> > > time
> > you
> > > can dedicate for your study. You can give between 300-400 hours in
> > > the remaining month. Make use of your time and try to find people
> > > are
> willing
> > > to
> > > help like this group.
> > > - never mind to impress your x manager, or GS members, or your x
> > > colleagues at work... by passing from 1st attempt. Thinking to
> > > impress others is
> > just
> > > adding more pressure however nobody will see you falling in your 1st
> > > attempt.
> > > - never mind about your weak technologies because you still have
> > > time
> to
> > > study everything from scratch BUT WITH CLEAR/UNSTRESSED MIND.
> > >
> > > I developed a stress reliever formula and called it 80/20 CCIE
> > Preparation
> > > method.
> > > http://inspiredk.com/2008/08/26/the-8020-ccie-preparation-method/
> > >
> > > Feel free to contact me if you have any inquires.
> > >
> > >
> > > BEST REGARDS,
> > >
> > > RAMY SISY | CCIE II (SECURITY, ROUTING/SWITCHING)#17321, CCSI#30417
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> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> > > Of Reza Toghraee
> > > Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 11:26 AM
> > > To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > Subject: Please advise, I have 1 month to LAB
> > >
> > > Hello
> > >
> > > I need all of you people who already done this way to advise me.
> > > Especially
> > > the great instructors in the group.
> > > I have 1 month to the LAB, it's my first attempt. I already got a
> > > leave from my job, so I have full 1 month to be prepared.
> > >
> > > I have too much stress!
> > >
> > > Since 2 months ago, I increased my study times, to around 6 to 8
> > > hours per day.
> > >
> > > I reviewed all the IE COD as my second time, I wrote all the tips,
> > > and I try to read them randomly.
> > >
> > > I done the IE WB VOL1, 2 times, I know that I still have some gaps
> > > on QOS, especially on 3550, 3560 QOS.
> > >
> > > I'm still doing the IE VOL2 labs, I done till LAB 16. I do it
> > > slowly, I try to solve myself and whenever I learn anything new, I
> > > write it down and then I attach on the wall of my room, at the
> > > moment there are lots of papers on my wall, and every day I read
> > > them to memorize.
> > >
> > > I have the printed version of 3560 docs, I already read most of the
> > > chapters and I did my notes.
> > >
> > > I know I have gaps in QOS, Multicast, I don't want to get lost in
> > > multicast in the LAB, sometimes I spend a lot of time for doing the
> > > multicast
> > >
> > > what I have in my library :
> > > 1) Doyell books
> > > 2) R&S exam certi guide (odom)
> > > 3) QOS exam cert guide (odom) (I didn't read)
> > > 4) many printed documents about QOS, Multicast which I got from a
> > > good friend. (just organized, not read yet)
> > >
> > > I donno, I have to continue doing the labs, or stop, just read, or
> > > IE COD, or Narbik?? I'm not familiar with Narbik.
> > > I plan to do IE mock labs on every Thursday .
> > >
> > >
> > > Please kindly Advise.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Reza Toghraee
> > >
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