From: Joseph Brunner (joe@affirmedsystems.com)
Date: Fri Sep 05 2008 - 13:18:12 ART
A few years back we looked at their white papers on the Netscaler vs the
Cisco load balancers. We also tested Foundary server/big irons on a demo.
It wasn't even close; Netscaler had the best product by a mile, which was
what Miercom said. So maybe that was just one time Miercom got it right; but
I really read their reports pretty darn closely; including the tipping point
vs cisco ips.
I spent about 3 months of my life in 2004 all day with those load balancers,
so I can attest to the accuracy of the report. We brought in our own test
tools and I attended the Netscaler University, so I'm a bit biased to
Netscaler, but the functionality was way ahead of its day.
Some Miercom reports are just tests they did, and didn't not really put
Cisco up against another vendor (like the CCME 6 test).
One question I have is why Gartner wants you to pay $495 for each of their
magic quadrant reports... Don't the vendor's pay to evaluate their products,
or do they and Gartner just wants to eat from both ends of the plate?
Thanks,
Joe
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Radioactive Frog
Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 12:09 PM
To: Muhammad Nasim
Cc: Dale Kling; CCIEin2006; Cisco certification
Subject: Re: OT - Miercom - Are they really unbiased?
Gartner is somehow close and publishes true report.
to test this, download any report and see where Cisco exists there..
On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 11:22 PM, Muhammad Nasim
<muhammad.nasim@gmail.com>wrote:
> No one can trust Mericom as I stated below it seems to me that Cisco has
> HEAVY shares in Mericom.
> Please look into IDC or Gartner reports and most importantly as Dale
> mentioned do your own tests.
>
>
> HTH
>
>
> 2008/9/5 Dale Kling <dalek77@gmail.com>
>
> > I work in a lab environment and we do our own tests based on the
> > requirements of the project. I've been heavily involved in a multicast
> > project for some time now and I Can tell you that most hardware I've
> tested
> > does not perform as advertised. Now what we have been able to do is go
> > back
> > to the vendor and tellthem our problem. They get the BU involved on the
> > product line with the developers and provide a fix.
> >
> > IMO, I believe getting demo gear and testing it yourself is the best
way,
> > although I don't know if you can trust or not trust those Miercom
> reports,
> > as I've never used them so I probably didn't answer your question and
> just
> > made you read a long run-on sentence. :P
> >
> > Dale
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 8:57 AM, CCIEin2006 <ciscocciein2006@gmail.com
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Gang,
> > >
> > > I am in the process of selecting new hardware and starting reading all
> > > these
> > > Miercom performance reports Cisco has on their web site.
> > > It seems Miercom gives glowing reviews on every Cisco product and
> feature
> > > and always seems to favor Cisco in comparison to other vendors.
> Normally
> > > when you read product evaluations from truly independent third parties
> > > there are usually some negative comments even on top rated products.
> The
> > > Miercom reports do not have a single negative word in them!
> > >
> > > Which leaves me wondering - are they really unbiased? Can I trust
their
> > > findings?
> > >
> > > Don't get me wrong, I love Cisco, I even based my whole career on
them,
> > but
> > > I don't think every single one of their products beats the competition
> in
> > > every respect.
> > >
> > > What do you guys think?
> > >
> > >
> > > Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net
> > >
> > >
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