From: Luan M Nguyen (luan@t3technology.com)
Date: Wed Aug 06 2008 - 11:44:25 ART
Who are those "folks" with lots of CCIEs? :)
Are you trying to get some suggestions on what your site name should be
changed to?
hehe couldn't resist...:P
-Luan
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Scott Morris
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 9:27 AM
To: 'Joseph Brunner'; 'Antonie Henning - MWEB'; yungli2008@gmail.com;
ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: General Question
Why would you need multiple IE's to stay sharp?
You simply need to WORK on keeping your skills sharp and keeping up with
newer technologies/methods.
There are plenty of 1x CCIEs that I would sooner trust than some folks who
have LOTS of CCIEs. Quantity does not make one current or good.
Just my two cents for the day.
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-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Joseph Brunner
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 4:07 AM
To: 'Antonie Henning - MWEB'; yungli2008@gmail.com; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: General Question
>I think the only way to get up to the level of the < CCIE#10000 is to
>go multiple CCIE or JCIE?
So you think all the guys with numbers below 10k are yodi and dooku huh?
WRONG!
I'll say it again... if you don't keep your skill set RAZOR sharp then the
abilities you acquired going through the lab become as dull as tofu in a
blender.
One of my ex-bosses (mr. 6xxx) wanted to use custom queuing for voip payload
and signaling... the boss is never wrong right? Even if he's had his CCIE
Since I was loading drivers on my home win 98 pc ;)
You need to do multiple IE's just to stay sharp! Forget the money...
-Joe
-----Original Message-----
From: Antonie Henning - MWEB [mailto:AHenning@mweb.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 3:07 AM
To: Joseph Brunner; yungli2008@gmail.com; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: General Question
What Joe wanted to say if you read very very carefully between the lines, is
that some CCIE's don't recertify because its not worth it, they become
'inactive'. Therefore only 17660 of the 21665-1024 are 'active'
It is true about the CCIE cert, since I started my journey with CCNA their
were only 78 odd ccie's locally, 3.5 years down the line there are only 84
and since the march ccie worldwide stats update and the august update shot
up to 100 ccie's locally.
I think the only way to get up to the level of the < CCIE#10000 is to go
multiple CCIE or JCIE?
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Joseph Brunner
Sent: 05 August 2008 09:45 PM
To: yungli2008@gmail.com; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: General Question
A few years ago I was in a room and EVERYONE but me was a CISSP.
The cert had become a commodity and everyone started getting it in like
2004. What are the odds 6 guys (3 it, 1 finance, 1 project management, 1
facilities!) from 2 different companies would all have the same
CERTIFICATION?
The CCIE is going through the same thing now. I recently went to a technical
interview for a consulting position... all 4 of us were CCIE's ;) And that's
just one small room, on planet earth.
As times get tighter and IT gets more and more commonplace you need to do A
LOT to keeping earning the amount of money to maintain your family's
standard of living. Don't be shocked to see these numbers accelerate as more
and more IT fields overlap (i.e. voice and data = same dept in the
company)
and fewer folks are needed.
I'll leave you with this;
I went to a "must be CCIE interview once". They wanted 10 things, systems,
email, backups, oh, yeah, and cisco". Cisco is really becoming an
afterthought to many organizations...
"I'll take a C++ guy, who knows java, unix, shell scripts, oh, and when he's
not busy, he can re-design and admin my cisco network!"
-Joe
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
yungli2008@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 3:25 PM
To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: General Question
Experts
I couldn't understand the CCIE number, current total CCIEs 17660 but the
current number is 21665.
How cisco offer these numbers.... symmetrically or?
For example last month one guy got #21395 now another one #21665, within a
month 270 CCIEs..? I can't believe?
Li
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