From: Narbik Kocharians (narbikk@gmail.com)
Date: Fri Jul 25 2008 - 11:53:02 ART
Nasim,
Why do you think that i was recommending it?
By the way guys, you forgot to add Saudi as well.
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 7:27 AM, nortic @hackermail.com <
nortic@hackermail.com> wrote:
> yup, beijing
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Scott Morris" <swm@emanon.com>
> > To: "'nortic @hackermail.com'" <nortic@hackermail.com>, "'Joseph
> Brunner'" <joe@affirmedsystems.com>, "'Narbik Kocharians'" <
> narbikk@gmail.com>
> > Subject: RE: Good job CISCO!!!!
> > Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 09:16:55 -0400
> >
> >
> > I think you are missing one test center there... Since I can't blow up
> the
> > map to get too detailed, I'm thinking it was either Bangalore, India or
> Hong
> > Kong, China...
> >
> > Test Centers:
> >
> > RTP (US)
> > San Jose (US)
> > Brussels, Belgium
> > Sydney, Australia
> > Bangalore, India
> > Beijing, China
> > Hong Kong
> > Dubai, UAE
> > Tokyo, Japan
> > Sao Paulo, Brazil
> >
> > And while that vast majority of Americans may live closer to a lab, I
> > thought we were talking mere quantity here in which case why are really
> not
> > the most populous area.
> >
> > But I think Cisco chose somewhat more major cities to align with the
> > "generally easy" places to get in and out of along with whatever offices
> > they already had.
> >
> > Will some people have it harder than others? Sure. C'est la vie.
> >
> > Scott
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> > nortic @hackermail.com
> > Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 8:22 AM
> > To: Joseph Brunner; 'nortic @hackermail.com'; 'Narbik Kocharians'
> > Cc: 'Cisco certification'
> > Subject: RE: Good job CISCO!!!!
> >
> > According to the US of A intel its the 5th largest "country" (not 4th)
> >
> https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2119ra
> > nk.html
> >
> > I thought the 70% of of the world population lives closer to a lab than
> 70%
> > of americans was hilarious, so I drew you a picture of the world, lab
> > locations and 4-5hour flight radius.
> > http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e129/ccielabs/map-labs.jpg
> >
> > It appears that its more a case of 100% of americans live closer to a lab
> > than 70% of the world population. China and India skew the stats a bit.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Joseph Brunner" <joe@affirmedsystems.com>
> > > To: "'nortic @hackermail.com'" <nortic@hackermail.com>, "'Narbik
> > > Kocharians'" <narbikk@gmail.com>
> > > Subject: RE: Good job CISCO!!!!
> > > Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 04:19:04 -0400
> > >
> > >
> > > Last time I checked 77% of the labs were not in the United
> > > States... Unless we annexed
> > >
> > > Sao Paulo, Brazil
> > > Brussels, Belgium
> > > Dubai, UAE
> > > Tokyo, Japan
> > > Hong Kong, China
> > > Sydney, Australia
> > > Bangalore, India
> > >
> > > So, Mr. Geography, I'm guessing here, but about 70% of the
> > > WORLD'S POPULATION lives closer to one of those labs, than 70%
> > > percent of Americans live to San Jose or RTP.
> > >
> > > The United States is the 4th largest country in the world, and
> > > North America is 3000 Miles from Europe and 7,000+ Miles from
> > > ASIA. It seems to me the lab geography would favor EMEA/ASIA on
> > > getting to the lab...
> > >
> > > Now go back in put some more thought into YOUR COMMENTS!!!
> > >
> > > -Joe
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: nortic @hackermail.com [mailto:nortic@hackermail.com]
> > > Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 4:05 AM
> > > To: Narbik Kocharians; Joseph Brunner
> > > Cc: Cisco certification
> > > Subject: Re: Good job CISCO!!!!
> > >
> > > How much thought did you guys put into your comments?
> > >
> > > For the rest of the world, (no not that small country called the
> > > US of A), its not a drive down to RTP/San Jose to sit the lab
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Narbik Kocharians" <narbikk@gmail.com>
> > > > To: "Joseph Brunner" <joe@affirmedsystems.com>
> > > > Subject: Re: Good job CISCO!!!!
> > > > Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:19:11 -0700
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I will vote for that.
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 2:17 PM, Joseph Brunner > <
> joe@affirmedsystems.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > THANK GOD!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > Lets start by invalidating ALL previously obtained
> > > prometric/VUE > > certifications... and requiring CCIE's pass the
> > > LAB not just the > > written every 2 years...
> > > > >
> > > > > -Joe
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On
> > > > > Behalf Of Michael Jones
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 5:14 PM
> > > > > To: Cisco certification
> > > > > Subject: Good job CISCO!!!!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > http://www.foxbusiness.com/story/markets/industries/telecom/cisco-pear
> > > son-vu
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> > > > >
> > > > > Tuesday, July 22, 2008 Cisco and Pearson VUE Combat Exam Fraud > >
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> > > > >
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> > > > >
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> > > > > "We looked at alternatives for addressing the issue of proxy > >
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