From: WorkerBee (ciscobee@gmail.com)
Date: Thu Jul 24 2008 - 20:00:10 ART
Oh ya..that's where you tweak your own T.302 interdigit timeout
setting = 2 minutes.
Probably too much voice stuff at the moment... ;)
In this case, you're absolutely right. Is a valid strategy to pass the
written exam too.
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 6:53 AM, Roman Rodichev <roman@iementor.com> wrote:
> Ok I think you are missing my point, but I will reiterate...
>
> What's stopping someone from waiting 2 minutes between answering
> questions?!!
>
>
>
> Roman Rodichev
> 5xCCIE #7927 (R&S, Security, Voice, Storage, Service Provider)
> Instructor, Content Developer
> ieMentor Corporation http://www.iementor.com
> Y!M: roman7927
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: WorkerBee [mailto:ciscobee@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 5:52 PM
> To: Roman Rodichev
> Cc: Anthony Sequeira; Michael Jones; Cisco certification
> Subject: Re: Good job CISCO!!!!
>
> Don't forget is not the duration of your stay that Cisco is tracking, it is
> the
> inter-question timeout that counts. That's where Cisco is tracking the
> rate of solving the questions.
>
> If you can answer 4 questions per minute, man...is like you can write
> faster than you read or
> you can speak faster than you can think.
>
> On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 6:45 AM, Roman Rodichev <roman@iementor.com> wrote:
>> What is stopping someone who used pass4sure and knows all the answers,
> from answering a few questions wrong and sitting there for two hours instead
> of 11 minutes? I don't get it. Forensics?!!
>>
>>
>> Roman Rodichev
>> 5xCCIE #7927 (R&S, Security, Voice, Storage, Service Provider)
>> Instructor, Content Developer. ieMentor Corporation
>> http://www.iementor.com
>> Y!M: roman7927
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: "Anthony Sequeira" <Anthony_Sequeira@skillsoft.com>
>> To: "Michael Jones" <majonestx@gmail.com>; "Cisco certification"
> <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
>> Sent: 7/24/08 5:08 PM
>> Subject: RE: Good job CISCO!!!!
>>
>> Finally, Cisco will invalidate a passing score if the candidate
>> completed the exam with a score of 980 and it took them 11 minutes.
>>
>> Even for a CCIE taking the CCNA - that is just not possible unless you
>> have purchased the correct answers.
>>
>> In addition to analyzing the time spent on questions, I wonder what
>> other "forensic" techniques will be used?
>>
>> One sad note for me on this topic, however. I took the new BCMSN exam
>> last week and was amazed at how incredibly difficult it was. That is a
>> good thing of course, ensuring the CCNP knows his stuff. But the problem
>> was that several of the questions were OUT OF SCOPE for the Cisco
>> Official Course. It looked like they had borrowed questions from other
>> courses! Cisco needs to be more careful about this in my opinion. It
>> would be easy for someone to justify cheating if they spend a bunch of
>> money for a course that does not prepare them for the exam.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
>> Michael Jones
>> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 5:14 PM
>> To: Cisco certification
>> Subject: Good job CISCO!!!!
>>
>> http://www.foxbusiness.com/story/markets/industries/telecom/cisco-pearso
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>>
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