From: Ramy Sisy (ramysisy@inspiredmaster.com)
Date: Tue Jul 22 2008 - 21:13:47 ART
Thanks Narbik for the clarification,
I believe that all CCxA, and CCxP curriculums were developed by Cisco's
CLSPs under Cisco's supervision, so nothing different for CCIE curriculum.
Wendell Odom is writing for Cisco press to develop Cisco Press authorized
books and delivering Cisco authorized training for a CLSP using his valid
CCSI.
Todd Lamele is writing for Sybex but he is developing his own course ware
using his CCSI which might be violating Cisco's authorized training policies
if he is not an authorized Cisco training partner.
Anyway, I LOVE new CCIE training policies to regulate and organize CCIE
training instead of hearing about new workbooks and boot camps every day
from weird sites and people.
I believe the main reason behind this is to educate CCIE candidates about
legal vs. illegal training companies and course ware.
BEST REGARDS,
RAMY SISY, CCIE X 2 (SECURITY, ROUTING/SWITCHING)#17321, CCSI#30417
CCIE PROGRAM MANAGER
INSPIRED MASTER
INSPIRING CREATIVE THINKING ....
WWW.INSPIREDMASTER.COM
E. RAMYSISY@INSPIREDMASTER.COM
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Narbik Kocharians
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 4:49 PM
To: Ramy Sisy
Cc: Fahad Khan; GS CCIE-Lab; smorris@internetworkexpert.com; Brian McGahan;
Joseph Brunner; bdennis@internetworkexpert.com
Subject: Re: RIP route filtering using Extended ACL
Ramy guess what? the official CCIE curriculum will be based on one of the
vendors, and as a matter of fact, this is one time that i totally disagree
with what they are trying to do (That's if it ever happens).
If you look at the official CCNA or CCNP curriculum/book and then compare it
to one of the vendors that offer the CCNA and/or have a CCNA or CCNP work
book (For example Todd Lamele and/or Wendell Odom's) you will quickly see
that its all business and have nothing to do with the reason/s you
mentioned.
On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 2:06 PM, Ramy Sisy <ramysisy@inspiredmaster.com>
wrote:
> Hi Fahad,
> Each vendor has his own tricks to attract people to their products so
> sometimes some vendors can create complicated questions to indirectly
> affect
> people's thoughts that they will lose without their products. That is why
> Cisco is coming up with official CCIE curriculum in the near future to
> standardize CCIE training.
>
> Maybe this is not the case here as I believe in IE professional
> deliverables, but in general, I recommend you to be very cool and never
> panic about any little trick like what you have in your mail.
>
> Do your best to study hard and you will be fine.
>
> BEST REGARDS,
>
> RAMY SISY, CCIE X 2 (SECURITY, ROUTING/SWITCHING)#17321, CCSI#30417
> CCIE PROGRAM MANAGER
>
> INSPIRED MASTER
> INSPIRING CREATIVE THINKING ....
>
> WWW.INSPIREDMASTER.COM <http://www.inspiredmaster.com/>
> E. RAMYSISY@INSPIREDMASTER.COM
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Fahad Khan
> Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 12:08 PM
> To: GS CCIE-Lab
> Cc: smorris@internetworkexpert.com; Narbik Kocharians; Brian McGahan;
> Joseph
> Brunner; bdennis@internetworkexpert.com
> Subject: Re: RIP route filtering using Extended ACL
>
> Dear All and specially all respected instructors,
>
> For my CCIE lab exam preparation , I have been going thorugh DOC CD
> (Configuration guides, Command ref guides, Design guides, tech notes,
> different white papers, FAQs and other relevant stuff on cisco site) and
> other practice labs. But the important thing I want to ask that these kind
> of things (like in this thread, use of ext ACL for IGPs) i didnt find in
> DOC
> CD. Kindly let me know where and how can I find such strange and hidden
> things on cisco portal. I will be very thankful to you.
>
> Thanks and regards,
>
>
> On 7/22/08, Larry <cc13lab@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Fahad,
> >
> > Here is a link explaining it with RIP:
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
http://blog.internetworkexpert.com/category/ccie-routing-switching/interior-
> gateway-routing/page/2/
> >
> >
> > hth
> >
> >
> > On 7/22/08, Fahad Khan <fahad.khan@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> well, i am still unable to understand , how Ext ACL is used in RIP(with
> >> dist-list) and why? Can any one shed more light over it?
> >>
> >> Thanks and regards,
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 3:00 AM, Huan Pham <pnhuan@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Hi Khan,
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Thanks for the example. Appearently, the use of extended ACL in the
> BGP
> >> > example is another hair pulling exersize.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > But we can use extended ACL for RIP as well, as shown in my example.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Cheers,
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --- On *Tue, 7/22/08, Fahad Khan <fahad.khan@gmail.com>* wrote:
> >> >
> >> > From: Fahad Khan <fahad.khan@gmail.com>
> >> > Subject: Re: RIP route filtering using Extended ACL
> >> > To: "Huan Pham" <Huan.Pham@peopletelecom.com.au>
> >> > Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> >> > Date: Tuesday, July 22, 2008, 7:00 PM
> >> >
> >> > Futher more,
> >> >
> >> > Remember! IP access-list number <1-199> (shown below) is meaning full
> >> > *only*,
> >> > when you want to perform route filtering in *BGP*
> >> >
> >> > R1(config-router)#distribute-list ?
> >> > <1-199> IP access list number
> >> > <1300-2699> IP expanded access list number
> >> > WORD Access-list name
> >> > gateway Filtering incoming updates based on gateway
> >> > prefix Filter prefixes in routing updates
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > In rip and other IGPs, distribute-list works with standard ACL
only
> >> but
> >> > in BGP it can work with extanded ACL as well.
> >> >
> >> > Go through the link below,
> >> >
> >>
>
>
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk365/technologies_tech_note09186a00801310cb
> .shtml#acclists
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Thanks and regards,
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 11:26 PM, Huan Pham
> >> > <Huan.Pham@peopletelecom.com.au>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Hi GS,
> >> > >
> >> > > I can not find the guide on the use of extended ACL to filter RIP
> >> > > routes. May someone please point me the link to this section. Many
> >> > > thanks.
> >> > >
> >> > > The following config is from a vendor workbook. It's to prevent the
> >> > > route 150.1.7.0/24 learnt via router 155.1.0.1 off interface
> Serial0.
> >> > >
> >> > > access-list 199 deny ip host 155.1.0.1 host 150.1.7.0
> >> > > access-list 199 permit ip any any
> >> > >
> >> > > router rip
> >> > > version 2
> >> > > network 150.1.0.0
> >> > > network 155.1.0.0
> >> > > distribute-list 199 in Serial0
> >> > > no auto-summary
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > I usually make mistake with creating extended ACL for this purpose.
> I
> >> do
> >> > > tend to put subnet route first (source address portion), and the
> >> gateway
> >> > > after (destination address). The right ACL should be created in the
> >> > > reverse order, as above. I can not find relevant info in the RIP
> >> > > configuration guide, nor in command reference. Help in
understanding
> >> > > this command is appreciated.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Huan,
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
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> >> >
> >> >
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> >> >
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> >> >
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>
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>
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