From: Arden Packeer (contactme@ardenpackeer.com)
Date: Wed Jul 02 2008 - 11:56:52 ART
If you guys are looking for work you should seriously contact Emmanuel Conde
at http://www.ccieagent.com/
Emmanuel is a recruitment guru who specializes in hiring CCIE's and Cisco
Network Engineers.
--- Arden Packeer Cisco Certified Internetwork Expert (CCIE #20716 R&S) Cisco Systems Instructor (CCSI #31090)contactme@ardenpackeer.com http://ardenpackeer.com
On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 12:32 AM, Jared Scrivener <jscrivener@ipexpert.com> wrote:
> Hey Luan, > > We need a thread for this topic as it comes up pretty often. Once I get my > personal blog setup soon (I bought the domain yesterday) I'll have a topic > dedicated to this. > > Firstly, it isn't just about the money - there are many more factors to > consider when taking the job. Sure money is important, but I find lifestyle > flexibility, travel and respect are all valuable too. > > Secondly, I'm loathe to give salary advice per se - every country and every > person is different and we all have additional talents and experiences > besides our CCIE. > > What I do recommend though is that you market yourself. If you're the > person > applying for jobs (rather than them being offered to you) you have less > negotiating hand. > > When you start to get offers (a CCIE is a great marketing tool) always ask > the recruiter about the client, the rate, the industry sector etc. and > remember the numbers. Add about 10% to the highest one you hear about (as > that factors out recruiters fees) and that's how much you should be asking > for if you were to apply to the company directly to another company in the > same sector. > > Recruiters need to get paid, so if they offer you a job AND add value to > you > (i.e help you negotiate, give you information etc.) don't cut them out of > the picture - just realise that your new employer can afford to pay you > $10-15K more next year when the recruiters fees aren't factored into your > salary. I've dealt with a number of great recruiters who will look at my > wants and needs and go out of their way to find me other jobs that may suit > me. Use LinkedIn to build relationships with them. > > Anyway, that's my 2 cents. > > Cheers, > > Jared Scrivener CCIE2 #16983 (R&S, Security), CISSP > Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc. > Telephone: +1.810.326.1444 > Fax: +1.810.454.0130 > Mailto: jscrivener@ipexpert.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of > Luan > Nguyen > Sent: Wednesday, 2 July 2008 9:37 AM > To: ccielab@groupstudy.com > Subject: OT: Salary Question Again! > > Hi guys, > > In lieu of Mister Scott Morris left for IE, and with Jared's advise :) > yep...putting you guys on the spot :P. I am thinking of testing > opportunities out...putting my resume on linkedin..etc > I am in the northern virginia area. What do you think i should start > negotiating at? > Have 10+ years of experience. Working my way from the ground up. > Supported > university computer lab, Did computer carrier at the pentagon, did 12-8 > night shift of computer operator...etc, worked at the IRS, the marriott > (these guys have funky networks) the last 8 years, working at an > institution > of sort :) touching all things...lucent, nortel, nokia, ixia, spirent, > juniper, arbor,...etc. The last couple years started to refocus on cisco. > have ccie r&s and all sort of ccxp (np, dp, sp, vp) written ie security, > sp, > written ccde :) though...i got the ccnp and ccdp back in 1999 so maybe i > should put ex-ccnp :). Back then with passing, they gave u t-shirt :) for > CCNA too i think. With CCDP, they gave you a black leather porfolio... > Thanks in advance for all inputs. > > -Luan > > > _______________________________________________________________________ > Subscription information may be found at: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html > > > _______________________________________________________________________ > Subscription information may be found at: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html
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