From: Hoogen (hoogen82@gmail.com)
Date: Mon Jun 30 2008 - 18:28:00 ART
I am still single.. do any of the vendors offer a bootcamp to teach all
that.. that sounds tougher to do list than doing a CCIE.
Bet you took more than 4 hrs to do that.. and even after 4 hrs you must have
failed.. :)
Congrats on your number though :)
-Hoogen
#14731
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 2:03 PM, Dale Kling <dalek77@gmail.com> wrote:
> You're not lying,
>
> Here's the start of the Honey-do-list I received by my wife:
>
> - Fix hole in wall
> - Fix crooked door
> - fix alum. wrapping on flashing around garage that blew off during storm
> - Replace warped deck boards, sand deck and restain (800 sq foot deck,it's
> going to suck badly)
> - pressure wash house, fence, driveway, seal fence and driveway
> - put new seal around exterior facing doors
> - mulch about 3000 sq feet of flower gardens that have overgrown with weeds
> as well now too
> - install new zone in sprinkler system
> - buy new 1080p tv and find time to enjoy it.
> - study for SP
>
> ugh,
>
> I think I was better off studying......
>
> On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 4:28 PM, keith tokash <ktokash@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Awesome. Sometimes while studying it sounded easy when people got their
> > number in a few months (which makes you wonder why it's not easy for
> > you...).
> > You did a good job conveying that you did in fact bleed for the digits.
> > Now
> > comes the fun part, where you start getting bashed in the head by all of
> > the
> > things you put off to study. :)
> >
> >
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> >
> > > Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 06:52:53 -0400
> > > From: dalek77@gmail.com
> > > To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > Subject: Damn, I finished the lab in 4 hours and had 4 hours to verify
> > and
> > I still didn't...........
> > >
> > > get served that coffee Brian Dennis was talking about. At least I got
> my
> > > number on my first attempt though, 21330 baby!
> > > BTW, never ever ever take your lab on Friday, the wait was worse then
> the
> > > night before christmas as a kid! I didn't get my results until I woke
> up
> > > this morning and have been on edge with people all weekend.
> > >
> > > Some people already know me from class and know my story. I began
> > studying
> > > because of all the paper CCNPs out there, especially my work. Now I
> have
> > > nothing against CCNPs or any paper certs if you did it the right way,
> but
> > > what pissed me off is that our employer thought this other guy was as
> > > qualified as me because he got his CCNP and this guy announced himself
> as
> > a
> > > Senior Engineer. Well this schmuck took two days to get an SVI on a Cat
> > 3750
> > > up and just started networking about a year ago. While I worked hard
> for
> > > mine and have recertified it twice over the past 7 years now, he got
> his
> > in
> > > weeks with you know what...... Pretty blatant about it as well as they
> > > passed them around work talking about how they can get CCNP in just a
> few
> > > weeks. These guys blow and I wish Cisco would do something about their
> > > testing system.
> > >
> > > In any case, I got mad, I mean really mad that nobody could see through
> > the
> > > charade of these fake qualified network engineers. February of this
> year
> > I
> > > had enough and I knew there was only one thing to do. Get something
> that
> > > they couldn't get or at least they would have to work real hard to get
> > and
> > > based on their work ethic, I doubt they would ever get it, the CCIE. I
> > > worked my @$$ off since I got the materials end of February, and by the
> > > grace of GOD and my lovely wife I was able to get my number in RTP on
> > June
> > > 27th. I pretty much shut my family off for the last 4 months, while my
> > wife
> > > took care of everything, the kids, the house, the dogs...... To give
> > > everyone an idea of the hours I put in.... I worked 40 hours a week, I
> > > studied everyday after work, from 6 pm to 2 am labbing and 12-15 hours
> > each
> > > day on the weekends. I took one day off and that was Mothers day and
> > then
> > I
> > > attended InternetworkExperts 12 day bootcamp. I actually finished
> their
> > > bootcamp material by the 3rd day of the bootcamp and Brian Dennis and
> > > company was nice enough to let me mock lab the rest of the days I was
> > > there. The InternetworkExpert bootcamp was nice to get away for 12
> days
> > > and lab for about 12-15 hours a day. I went outside once the entire
> > time
> > I
> > > was there and that was for a 5 min walk to look at the pool and I
> didn't
> > > turn on my tv once. I probably squeezed in about 3 weeks of lab time
> in
> > 2
> > > weeks of time. In essence, I was driven to get the CCIE from start to
> > > finish in about 4 months. Granted I have about 8 years Cisco
> experience,
> > > but it hasn't been hands on everyday the past 3-4 years because I work
> in
> > a
> > > lab environment now and no longer do operational support, thank god for
> > that
> > > too.
> > >
> > > It was a hard road, and there was many times I kept telling myself this
> > is
> > > too hard and will I never get there. However, I kept telling myself as
> > long
> > > as I keep studying and as long as I keep labbing I will always learn
> > > something and will get closer. You might think I'm crazy, but I had a
> > goal
> > > and my wife said go for it. As I've said in previous posts, my
> > motivattion
> > > was not money, but to gain the knowledge these other guys didn't have
> and
> > to
> > > achieve CCIE status, something most of these paper certifiers won't
> ever
> > > get. I have to say that I must thank these guys at work for the
> > > motivation, and I will today when I go in to work in 2 hours after I
> get
> > my
> > > Cisco polos embroidered with the CCIE logo and install an LED behind
> it.
> > :P
> > > Seriously though, they gave me that spark that I was missing for years
> > and
> > > passing this lab attempt has ignited it even more. Now if you've
> managed
> > to
> > > endure the past few paragraphs of blah, all you first time CCIE
> > candidates
> > > enjoy my recommendations, which you've all heard time and time again
> I'm
> > > sure.
> > >
> > > Study the Core, lab the Core until your fingers bleed. Get your Core
> > down
> > > to at least 3 hours or less. InternetwokExpert WB3 labs are awesome
> for
> > > this, I got those down to 2 hours or less, some of the hard ones took 2
> > 1/2
> > > hours. Speed and time management was huge for me. I probably put in
> > about
> > > 500 hours of harcore lab time the last 4 months. I initially started
> > > InternetworkExperts WB2 doing labs in like 10 hours, learning and
> > > understanding the theory behind things. They were tough at first, but
> I
> > > constantly would go back and reread the DOCCD and reference all my
> books,
> > I
> > > have ton of books. I watched their technologies COD 2 1/2 times in
> it's
> > > entirety. It took a lot of coffee and doing it hands on with them to
> > stay
> > > awake. Brian Dennis's jokes couldn't even keep me up anymore after the
> > > first go around. ;) After a few months I started completing their labs
> > in
> > > entirety in about 4 hours. Once this happened, I would do them and
> then
> > > look up everything in the DOCCD, no matter if I knew it or not. This
> was
> > my
> > > DOCCD familiarization stage. I actually picked that up from Scott
> Morris
> > > from somewhere I believe. Here it comes, you've heard it before, and
> > you're
> > > going to hear it again....
> > >
> > > KNOW YOUR DOCCD.. I guarantee you will get something in the lab that
> you
> > > haven't seen before. This is where speed on the CORE was essential for
> > me.
> > > By lunch I had completed the lab once over , ran my TCL script, and was
> > > feeling a little uneasy still, but I had the meat done. I'm a paranoid
> > guy,
> > > you can ask others. The only thing left was verification and digging
> in
> > the
> > > DOCCD for those few things I didn't know. I verified twice and each
> time
> > I
> > > found one small mistake that would have cost me 2 or 3 points each. Oh
> > and
> > > by the way, I still don't know the answer to one of them weird
> questions,
> > > even now that I'm home and I have google, so here it comes, here it
> comes
> > > again, KNOW YOUR DOCCD. My last suggestion is make sure you know
> theory
> > > very well in the CORE IGP, well everything you learn really, but
> > especially
> > > your CORE. you've heard time and time again Switching, FR, and IGP
> > probably
> > > will be half your points. If you understand the mechanics and how
> things
> > > work, no matter what scenario you get you can work through it. If you
> > > memorize the vendor WBs, it won't help in the real lab.
> > >
> > > So I guess I should recognize people and materials that have helped me.
> > > First off, my wife and GOD. If I don't mention her first, she might
> kill
> > me
> > > and probably the same about GOD... O_o Next, InternetworkExperts ver 4
> > WBs
> > > and their Technology COD. I have the Brians' voices engrained into my
> > > head. Brian Dennis, Josh Finke and crew from InternetworkExpert were
> > nice
> > > enough to hook me up in the last hours. Also, IPExperts audio CD with
> > Scott
> > > Morris. I bought their WB package, but I only used the audio portion.
> I
> > > thought it was very good and I probably listened to it about 5 times in
> > it's
> > > entirety driving to and from work everyday. It was just an extra tool
> to
> > > feed my brain the knowledge it needed.
> > >
> > > I already have the materials from InternetworkExpert for the SP track
> > and
> > > will hit that at work starting this morning since this is what I do at
> > work
> > > everyday and my boss will let me study while I lab it up on our 7604s.
> :)
> > > MMM Knowledge, I think these guys at work turned me into an animal.
> > Watch
> > > your back Petr, I'm coming for your CCIEs and I'll probably pass up
> Brian
> > > Mcgahan in 6 months because he's a slacker. j/k man. ;)
> > >
> > > Good luck to all other CCIE candidates and I hope this email helps.
> > >
> > > regards,
> > >
> > > Dale
> > >
> > > P.S. Don't unicast me for any NDA crap either, I'll turn your ass into
> > > Cisco.
> > >
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