From: Luan Nguyen (luan@t3technology.com)
Date: Tue Jun 03 2008 - 14:04:51 ART
Ask the Expert - CCIE voice
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quote from Ben "I don't think the upgrade will take place in calender year
2008"
-luan
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of Brad
Ellis
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 12:53 PM
To: Chris Gray; Tony Varriale; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: CCIE payrate in Los Angeles
I concur with that. We are looking to hire an additional CCIE Voice, and
it's taking a while to find one. It's pretty easy to get an R&S CCIE
engineer these days (from a staffing perspective). R&S CCIE is still in
great demand, but voice is in even more demand - especially due to the
number of Voice CCIEs that are out there. The only issue I have with the
whole Voice CCIE track, is that Cisco is still testing on 4.1. All of
our deployments these days are 6.1. Anyone who >HAD< a 4.1, has already
upgraded to 5.x or 6.x. I don't have any customers who are running 4.1.
Hopefully the CCIE lab exam will soon change to reflect this...BEN? :)
thanks,
Brad Ellis
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-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Chris Gray
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 9:27 AM
To: 'Tony Varriale'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: CCIE payrate in Los Angeles
Its not that much better here in the UK. I have years of experience
(Started
for MFS Datanet in 1994). Have worked on stacks of kit most of which has
gone (netedge, Xyplex, Bay, GDC, Cascade, Wellfleet, Stratacom) which is
why
I am working for this CCIE. Need to keep up with Cisco.
But in the UK, its hard to get a job in engineering. Pre sales is not a
problem, but if you want to walk into an MPLS engineering role, at a
decent
salary rate (#75K and above) its almost impossible.
I engaged a silver partner a few weeks back, they are offering #65K for
a
pre sales role, but must have CCIE.
I had a recruitment 'consultant' tell me that CCIE R&S is common, its
the
CCIE VOICE I should have. Do these people realise what we put ourselves
through to get this certification? I bet its a dam site more than they
go
through to become a self labelled 'consultant'!
Anyway, Keep up the good work!
KRIZ
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Tony
Varriale
Sent: 03 June 2008 16:06
To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: CCIE payrate in Los Angeles
I would rather be in OH at that pay rate. $110k in LA is tough.
Tony
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Morris, Jason L.
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 9:43 AM
To: R.S. CCIE; Joseph Brunner
Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: CCIE payrate in Los Angeles
I have no idea what the market in LA is like. I live in Cincinnati and
was just looking at a 'cost of living calculator', the numbers you guys
are throwing out are way low for the market here. According to CNN
Money 110k in LA is worth just a little over 67k in Cincinnati. I've
got 2 guys on my team who just got their CCNA since joining the company
that are making that.
Is the market in LA really that bad? If so I'll never bitch about being
stuck in the Midwest ever again.
Jason Morris
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
R.S. CCIE
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 2:51 AM
To: Joseph Brunner
Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: CCIE payrate in Los Angeles
:-(
That really hurts ...... Ouch!
On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 11:40 PM, Joseph Brunner
<joe@affirmedsystems.com>
wrote:
> You don't find a job at all
>
>
>
> Walk through a big data center all those cabinets/cages there are a
lot
> of smart hungry tech guys out of work right now
>
>
>
> You are not alone.
>
>
>
> -Joe
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> *From:* R.S. CCIE [mailto:r.s.cciestudy@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 03, 2008 2:34 AM
> *To:* Tony Schaffran (GS)
> *Cc:* Joseph Brunner; Roger; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> *Subject:* Re: CCIE payrate in Los Angeles
>
>
>
>
> What is the worst case scenario though? That is what I like to know
.....
> :-)
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 10:03 AM, Tony Schaffran (GS) <
> groupstudy@cconlinelabs.com> wrote:
>
> A CCIE with no experience, you would be lucky to get $90K
>
>
> Tony Schaffran
> Network Analyst
> CCIE #11071
> CCNP, CCNA, CCDA,
> NNCDS, NNCSS, CNE, MCSE
>
> www.cconlinelabs.com
> Your #1 choice for online Cisco rack rentals.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
Of
>
> Joseph Brunner
> Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 12:35 AM
> To: 'Roger'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: CCIE payrate in Los Angeles
>
> I was joking friend...
>
> So we do agree!
>
> I just finished a 28 hour marathon network overhaul and I'm home
firing up
> dynamips. Don't let your skill set get weakened, even for a few hours
to
> sleep.
>
> I was offered a whopping $112k a year for my Jedi skills in NYC just
the
> other day... the economy is $@&ked! That was at a fortune 25
company!!!!
> There are like 1000's of CCIE's out of work... Citigroup, Bear Sterns,
> BofA,
> Wachovia, Merrill Lynch, Morgan, Hedge funds, these guys are bleeding
cash
> and are dropping IT engineering staff like there's no tomorrow... lots
of
> smart guys with no dojo looking for work right now...
>
> That's about $2800 every two weeks after taxes... that MIGHT fill up
my gas
> tank, and put a few groceries in my house... LOL
>
> Guys, hit the books harder than ever if you want to swim through the
next 3
> or 5 years...
>
> -Joe
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
Of
> Roger
> Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 3:05 AM
> To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: CCIE payrate in Los Angeles
>
> Man I hate to disagree with Joseph (and I don't all that often)
>
> If you are brand new CCIE, and I see that you have less then 5 years
exp
> in large-mid size networks I won't pay better then 110-125 (with
bonus).
>
>
> I have seen about 3-7 CCIE's recent in about the high 18xxx's &
19xxx's
> they've been able to answer CCIE questions however their real world
> problem solving has made me offer them much less. Reason: if they do
not
> have a wide breath of experience (2 of them never worked on Cat65XX)
> more time in training and supporting them will be required from
team/me.
> We had one that said he had worked a lot of 6509's and was a nice guy
so
> I took him to our server room as part of the interview and asked him
> about some of the gear as I pointed it out. He couldn't tell me which
> blade in the 6509 was the sup.
>
> HOWEVER if you are going to work for a cisco vendor (gold silver etc)
or
> you have 6+ years, then Joseph is about right, well I hope he is =)
>
> Good Journey!
> Roger
>
> > -------- Original Message --------
> > Subject: RE: CCIE payrate in Los Angeles
> > From: "Joseph Brunner" <joe@affirmedsystems.com>
> > Date: Sat, May 31, 2008 10:49 pm
> > To: "'R.S. CCIE'" <r.s.cciestudy@gmail.com>, "'Cisco certification'"
> > <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> >
> >
> > $140,000 with 20% bonus in writing.
> >
> > Anything less and I'll say lance Armstrong has more cajones than
you, LA
> > cabronito Vato!
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
Of
> R.S.
> > CCIE
> > Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 1:04 AM
> > To: Cisco certification
> > Subject: CCIE payrate in Los Angeles
> >
> > What would be the minimum offer (as an employee) should a brand new
CCIE
> > accept without hurting the CCIE prestige ? And this brand new CCIE
only
> has
> > experience on 2600, 3800 routers.....etc. No experience on those BIG
> horses.
> >
> >
> >
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