From: Dane Newman (dane.newman@gmail.com)
Date: Tue Jun 03 2008 - 15:03:41 ART
Anyone else think they need to make the CCIE for the different topics a
different?
Such as..
CCVE = Cisco Certified Voice Expert
CCSE = Cisco Certifed Security Expert
CCRSE = Cisco Certified Routing and Switching Expert
ect...
If you tell someone your a CCIE they kinda automatically assume your routing
and switching
And yeah please update the voice lab as Brad said.
On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 12:53 PM, Brad Ellis <brad@ccbootcamp.com> wrote:
> I concur with that. We are looking to hire an additional CCIE Voice, and
> it's taking a while to find one. It's pretty easy to get an R&S CCIE
> engineer these days (from a staffing perspective). R&S CCIE is still in
> great demand, but voice is in even more demand - especially due to the
> number of Voice CCIEs that are out there. The only issue I have with the
> whole Voice CCIE track, is that Cisco is still testing on 4.1. All of
> our deployments these days are 6.1. Anyone who >HAD< a 4.1, has already
> upgraded to 5.x or 6.x. I don't have any customers who are running 4.1.
> Hopefully the CCIE lab exam will soon change to reflect this...BEN? :)
>
> thanks,
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Chris Gray
> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 9:27 AM
> To: 'Tony Varriale'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: CCIE payrate in Los Angeles
>
> Its not that much better here in the UK. I have years of experience
> (Started
> for MFS Datanet in 1994). Have worked on stacks of kit most of which has
> gone (netedge, Xyplex, Bay, GDC, Cascade, Wellfleet, Stratacom) which is
> why
> I am working for this CCIE. Need to keep up with Cisco.
>
> But in the UK, its hard to get a job in engineering. Pre sales is not a
> problem, but if you want to walk into an MPLS engineering role, at a
> decent
> salary rate (#75K and above) its almost impossible.
>
> I engaged a silver partner a few weeks back, they are offering #65K for
> a
> pre sales role, but must have CCIE.
>
> I had a recruitment 'consultant' tell me that CCIE R&S is common, it s
> the
> CCIE VOICE I should have. Do these people realise what we put ourselves
> through to get this certification? I bet it s a dam site more than they
> go
> through to become a self labelled 'consultant'!
>
> Anyway, Keep up the good work!
>
> KRIZ
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Tony
> Varriale
> Sent: 03 June 2008 16:06
> To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: CCIE payrate in Los Angeles
>
> I would rather be in OH at that pay rate. $110k in LA is tough.
>
> Tony
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Morris, Jason L.
> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 9:43 AM
> To: R.S. CCIE; Joseph Brunner
> Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: CCIE payrate in Los Angeles
>
> I have no idea what the market in LA is like. I live in Cincinnati and
> was just looking at a 'cost of living calculator', the numbers you guys
> are throwing out are way low for the market here. According to CNN
> Money 110k in LA is worth just a little over 67k in Cincinnati. I've
> got 2 guys on my team who just got their CCNA since joining the company
> that are making that.
>
> Is the market in LA really that bad? If so I'll never bitch about being
> stuck in the Midwest ever again.
>
> Jason Morris
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> R.S. CCIE
> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 2:51 AM
> To: Joseph Brunner
> Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: CCIE payrate in Los Angeles
>
> :-(
>
> That really hurts ...... Ouch!
>
> On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 11:40 PM, Joseph Brunner
> <joe@affirmedsystems.com>
> wrote:
>
> > You don't find a job at all
> >
> >
> >
> > Walk through a big data center all those cabinets/cages there are a
> lot
> > of smart hungry tech guys out of work right now
> >
> >
> >
> > You are not alone .
> >
> >
> >
> > -Joe
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > *From:* R.S. CCIE [mailto:r.s.cciestudy@gmail.com]
> > *Sent:* Tuesday, June 03, 2008 2:34 AM
> > *To:* Tony Schaffran (GS)
> > *Cc:* Joseph Brunner; Roger; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > *Subject:* Re: CCIE payrate in Los Angeles
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > What is the worst case scenario though? That is what I like to know
> .....
> > :-)
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 10:03 AM, Tony Schaffran (GS) <
> > groupstudy@cconlinelabs.com> wrote:
> >
> > A CCIE with no experience, you would be lucky to get $90K
> >
> >
> > Tony Schaffran
> > Network Analyst
> > CCIE #11071
> > CCNP, CCNA, CCDA,
> > NNCDS, NNCSS, CNE, MCSE
> >
> > www.cconlinelabs.com
> > Your #1 choice for online Cisco rack rentals.
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> Of
> >
> > Joseph Brunner
> > Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 12:35 AM
> > To: 'Roger'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Subject: RE: CCIE payrate in Los Angeles
> >
> > I was joking friend...
> >
> > So we do agree!
> >
> > I just finished a 28 hour marathon network overhaul and I'm home
> firing up
> > dynamips. Don't let your skill set get weakened, even for a few hours
> to
> > sleep.
> >
> > I was offered a whopping $112k a year for my Jedi skills in NYC just
> the
> > other day... the economy is $@&ked! That was at a fortune 25
> company!!!!
> > There are like 1000's of CCIE's out of work... Citigroup, Bear Sterns,
> > BofA,
> > Wachovia, Merrill Lynch, Morgan, Hedge funds, these guys are bleeding
> cash
> > and are dropping IT engineering staff like there's no tomorrow... lots
> of
> > smart guys with no dojo looking for work right now...
> >
> > That's about $2800 every two weeks after taxes... that MIGHT fill up
> my gas
> > tank, and put a few groceries in my house... LOL
> >
> > Guys, hit the books harder than ever if you want to swim through the
> next 3
> > or 5 years...
> >
> > -Joe
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> Of
> > Roger
> > Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 3:05 AM
> > To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Subject: RE: CCIE payrate in Los Angeles
> >
> > Man I hate to disagree with Joseph (and I don't all that often)
> >
> > If you are brand new CCIE, and I see that you have less then 5 years
> exp
> > in large-mid size networks I won't pay better then 110-125 (with
> bonus).
> >
> >
> > I have seen about 3-7 CCIE's recent in about the high 18xxx's &
> 19xxx's
> > they've been able to answer CCIE questions however their real world
> > problem solving has made me offer them much less. Reason: if they do
> not
> > have a wide breath of experience (2 of them never worked on Cat65XX)
> > more time in training and supporting them will be required from
> team/me.
> > We had one that said he had worked a lot of 6509's and was a nice guy
> so
> > I took him to our server room as part of the interview and asked him
> > about some of the gear as I pointed it out. He couldn't tell me which
> > blade in the 6509 was the sup.
> >
> > HOWEVER if you are going to work for a cisco vendor (gold silver etc)
> or
> > you have 6+ years, then Joseph is about right, well I hope he is =)
> >
> > Good Journey!
> > Roger
> >
> > > -------- Original Message --------
> > > Subject: RE: CCIE payrate in Los Angeles
> > > From: "Joseph Brunner" <joe@affirmedsystems.com>
> > > Date: Sat, May 31, 2008 10:49 pm
> > > To: "'R.S. CCIE'" <r.s.cciestudy@gmail.com>, "'Cisco certification'"
> > > <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > >
> > >
> > > $140,000 with 20% bonus in writing.
> > >
> > > Anything less and I'll say lance Armstrong has more cajones than
> you, LA
> > > cabronito Vato!
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> Of
> > R.S.
> > > CCIE
> > > Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 1:04 AM
> > > To: Cisco certification
> > > Subject: CCIE payrate in Los Angeles
> > >
> > > What would be the minimum offer (as an employee) should a brand new
> CCIE
> > > accept without hurting the CCIE prestige ? And this brand new CCIE
> only
> > has
> > > experience on 2600, 3800 routers.....etc. No experience on those BIG
> > horses.
> > >
> > >
> > >
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