From: Peter Grewal (peter@avient.ca)
Date: Mon Jun 02 2008 - 15:40:02 ART
Do you have proof that that is one of Narbiks marketing guys ???
As one of the many students of Narbiks class, all you have to do is attend
one of his classes to realize that Narbik does not need to resort to such
tactics. In the same vain as someone supposedly bashing one of the other
vendors, how can you possibly point this as Narbik ??? By the same logic,
would that also not make Josh to be a marketing guy of NMC ?
I atteneded Narbiks class knowing very little about the guy, other than what
people had written about him on GS, but after attending his class in May. I
can concretely state the following things, 1) He knows his stuff like the
back of his hand, 2) His workbooks are second to none 3) At no point did he
say anything negative about other vendors, in fact Narbik recommends to use
a second source of material from one of the many other vendors. 4) His
Grandma with her dual CCIE, probably knows more than you do when it comes to
routing & switching.
Before you go pointing the finger at someone, make sure that you have
sufficient proof of your claims. Having a Dr in your name, I would have
expected you to at least have done some validation of your claims before
sending such an email.
Peter.
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Ramya S
Sent: June 2, 2008 2:14 PM
To: Paul Borghese; cisco@groupstudy.com; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: BootCamp recommend
Paul, Keep up your good work which is helping many ccie candidates. Hope you
can release a workbook soon. Just ignore those messages, they are some
marketing guys of Narabik. Certscience program is very well designed and one
of the best along with all the other companies out there.
Dr Ramya Sen
> From: pborghese@groupstudy.com> To: cisco@groupstudy.com;
ccielab@groupstudy.com> Subject: RE: BootCamp recommend> Date: Mon, 2 Jun
2008
12:42:57 -0400> > Nobody named "Josh N." has ever taken a course from
Certification Science.> > A few former students of mine have been asking why
I
have not responded to> this joker. In a nutshell, I have not worried about
it.
Most CCIE students> are smart enough to realize it is a faked e-mail account
designed to hurt> our program and should not be taken seriously. If it gets
bad enough, we> have a procedure to subpoena the IP address and find out the
real identity.> A real student would have contacted us directly with their
concerns instead> of cowardly using fake e-mail accounts to slam us on a
public forum.> > I will be more then happy to give interested parties the
names and contact> information of people who have attended our program this
year. Heck, if I> can get permission to do so, I will give you the names of
every student who> has attended our program this year and you can obtain as
many opinions as> desired.> > We have also started using Metrics that Matter
for student evaluations which> most Cisco Certified programs use. I would be
more then happy to compare> our evaluation metrics to ANY competitor.> >
Paul
Borghese> http://www.certscience.com> > > > > > > > -----Original
Message-----> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On
Behalf Of> Joshua> Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 5:51 PM> To: 'Robert Bernal -
ControSat'> Cc: cisco@groupstudy.com; ccielab@groupstudy.com> Subject: RE:
BootCamp recommend> > I don't know anything about Cyscoexpert. Nor do I
know>
of anyone who taken a class from this company. I have> been to Narbiks,
NetMasters and Cer tscience. First> two are great; the last one stay away
from. Narbik and> NetMasters have two different approaches. NetMaster is>
very
scientific in their approach. I.E., as if they> are scientists, but top
notch.
Narbik is very good,> workbooks are extremely thorough, and he is like the>
"rainman" of the CLI, as far as I am concerned.> > I also have friends that
have had nothing but great> things to say about IPExperts and IE, but I
don't
have> personal experience.> > Josh N> jnccia@gmail.com> > > -----Original
Message-----> From: nobody@groupstudy.com> [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On
Behalf Of Robert> Bernal - ControSat> Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 4:03 PM>
To:
'Joseph Brunner'; 'Dane Newman'> Cc: 'Narbik Kocharians'; 'Ramya S';>
cisco@groupstudy.com; ccielab@groupstudy.com> Subject: RE: BootCamp
recommend>
> What's going on, I ask your opinion and nobody did a go> answer > It this
place for fun?> > > Regards.> > -----Mensaje original-----> De:
nobody@groupstudy.com> [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] En nombre de Joseph>
Brunner> Enviado el: Friday, May 30, 2008 1:21 PM> Para: 'Dane Newman'> CC:
'Narbik Kocharians'; 'Ramya S'; 'Robert Bernal -> ControSat';>
cisco@groupstudy.com; ccielab@groupstudy.com> Asunto: RE: BootCamp
recommend>
> Its ny dude, $200k> > > > _____ > > From: Dane Newman
[mailto:dane.newman@gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 2:19 PM> To:
Joseph Brunner> Cc: Narbik Kocharians; Ramya S; Robert Bernal -> ControSat;>
cisco@groupstudy.com; ccielab@groupstudy.com> Subject: Re: BootCamp
recommend>
> > > Damnit where is the new york bootcamp when I sat for my> exam ;(> > >
>
I guess Joseph is going to tell the ladies "see that> table of geeky
looking>
guys. Each of them is going to be making over 100k+> soon."> > On Fri, May
30,
2008 at 12:25 PM, Joseph Brunner> <joe@affirmedsystems.com>> wrote:> > Yeah
Narbik never did that!> > I'm the perennial goop self promoter here!> > Take
my bootcamp this July!... It's not in some two bit> horse town, its in> the
middle of New York City, near grand central> station!> > I'll even take you
out drinking afterwards, and bring> ladies over to our> table and get them
drunk and have them make out with> you!> > -Joe> > > -----Original
Message-----> From: nobody@groupstudy.com> [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On
Behalf Of> Narbik Kocharians> Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 12:19 PM> To: Ramya
S> Cc: Robert Bernal - ControSat; cisco@groupstudy.com;>
ccielab@groupstudy.com> Subject: Re: BootCamp recommend> > Narbik never did
that> > On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 6:20 AM, Ramya S> <ramya_1975@hotmail.com>
wrote:> > > All of them are good. Which Track do you want a> bootcamp for?
Browse> > through> > all the threads of groupstudy you will find the>
answer.>
> Hope Narabik is not tunneling through again to do> some 007 marketing.> >>
>
Ramya> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > From: robert.bernal@hotmail.com> To:>
cisco@groupstudy.com> CC:> > ccielab@groupstudy.com> Subject: BootCamp
recommend>> Date: Fri, 30 May> > 2008> > 08:06:08 -0500> > Hello all, im
looking for go> Bootcamp ,I see some> options> > but I don't know> which
will
be the best . What do> you guys recommend?> >> > > >> > -
InternetworkExperts>
> - CCBOOTCAMP> > -> Cyscoexpert> > > > > > > >> > Regards>> > > >> >>
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