From: Alexei Monastyrnyi (alexeim@orcsoftware.com)
Date: Fri May 30 2008 - 04:08:54 ART
fine achievement and a nice number! congrats!
A.
Cliff Moseley said the following on 5/30/2008 3:45 AM:
> It's my turn to talk about this long road to passing. I joined this mail list
> back in 2002 in order to study for my lab. I tell you what, even though you
> may not have passed your exam yet, the amount of knowledge that you are
> attaining will stick with you for years. I took my test twice in the Spring
> of 03 and unfortunately did not pass. I put it on the shelf for several
> reasons 1) I began consulting and realized there is a ton of stuff to learn in
> business and also how contracting works 2) I unfortunately had run into CCIEs
> that were not helpful and struck with God complexes.
>
>
>
> Let me harp on my past two points since some of you may not understand what I
> mean. Part of becoming a CCIE is more than just passing the test, you
> honestly need to have the work experience associated with it. Experiences
> meaning the ability to assess an unfamiliar situation, ask the right
> questions, work with others as well as educate, and the ability to even
> research the situation if it is extremely complex. I ran into CCIEs that
> jumped the gun and did not do these things....ASS-uming was one of the reasons
> why they were unable to produce positive results along with the God complex.
> A lot of these people make very bad names for themselves and wind up talked
> about amongst the contracting world.....trust me, you don't want labeled as
> one of the A$$hole CCIEs in this industry......you won't find a job. Luckily
> I ran into those CCIEs that had the positive qualities I mentioned previously.
> This inspired me to begin my studies again.
>
> First off everything I studied for in 02 and 03 stuck with me. When I began
> studying again I found myself remembering most of everything or I found myself
> saying, "Oh yeah I remember that". This definitely put me ahead of the game
> in regards to 'starting from scratch'. Of course I had to cover all the new
> things and command changes which was mindboggling at times, but I worked
> through it. The only materials I used were Cisco books and Dynamips using
> InternetworkExperts Labs 1-10 and 11-20. I got to the point that there was no
> reason to actually configure most of the sections b/c I had done it so much it
> wouldn't have mattered. So instead I would just copy and paste, frame-relay
> for example, just to minimize my time. Repetition is important and your way of
> thinking is crucial. Also take a class. I took a class at ASM Educational
> Center in Rockville MD with Narbik Kocharians 3CCIE. This dude knows WAY too
> much and he is a hell of reference. You'll realize how much you actually know
> and don't know. Make sure, and this is critical as well, that you think you
> can pass the lab before you take the class. Narbik will cover tons of
> information in a short period of time and its crucial that you already know
> what he is talking about so you pick out the things that you may not have
> heard or our not clear on. Also have your questions ready. Before my first
> day I already had concerns I wanted to throw at him from all of my studying
> and lab scenarios which he totally cleared up!! After that class I knew more
> than enough to pass the exam.
>
> CCIE #20908
>
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