From: Narbik Kocharians (narbikk@gmail.com)
Date: Fri May 30 2008 - 03:42:08 ART
Cliff,
Now its party time. Go for it you deserve it.
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 9:32 PM, Ina&Laurean <ina.laurean@gmail.com> wrote:
> Congratulations !!!
>
> On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 9:45 PM, Cliff Moseley <cliffmoseley@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > It's my turn to talk about this long road to passing. I joined this
> mail
> > list
> > back in 2002 in order to study for my lab. I tell you what, even though
> > you
> > may not have passed your exam yet, the amount of knowledge that you are
> > attaining will stick with you for years. I took my test twice in the
> > Spring
> > of 03 and unfortunately did not pass. I put it on the shelf for several
> > reasons 1) I began consulting and realized there is a ton of stuff to
> learn
> > in
> > business and also how contracting works 2) I unfortunately had run into
> > CCIEs
> > that were not helpful and struck with God complexes.
> >
> >
> >
> > Let me harp on my past two points since some of you may not understand
> what
> > I
> > mean. Part of becoming a CCIE is more than just passing the test, you
> > honestly need to have the work experience associated with it.
> Experiences
> > meaning the ability to assess an unfamiliar situation, ask the right
> > questions, work with others as well as educate, and the ability to even
> > research the situation if it is extremely complex. I ran into CCIEs that
> > jumped the gun and did not do these things....ASS-uming was one of the
> > reasons
> > why they were unable to produce positive results along with the God
> > complex.
> > A lot of these people make very bad names for themselves and wind up
> talked
> > about amongst the contracting world.....trust me, you don't want labeled
> as
> > one of the A$$hole CCIEs in this industry......you won't find a job.
> > Luckily
> > I ran into those CCIEs that had the positive qualities I mentioned
> > previously.
> > This inspired me to begin my studies again.
> >
> > First off everything I studied for in 02 and 03 stuck with me. When I
> > began
> > studying again I found myself remembering most of everything or I found
> > myself
> > saying, "Oh yeah I remember that". This definitely put me ahead of the
> > game
> > in regards to 'starting from scratch'. Of course I had to cover all the
> > new
> > things and command changes which was mindboggling at times, but I worked
> > through it. The only materials I used were Cisco books and Dynamips
> using
> > InternetworkExperts Labs 1-10 and 11-20. I got to the point that there
> was
> > no
> > reason to actually configure most of the sections b/c I had done it so
> much
> > it
> > wouldn't have mattered. So instead I would just copy and paste,
> frame-relay
> > for example, just to minimize my time. Repetition is important and your
> way
> > of
> > thinking is crucial. Also take a class. I took a class at ASM
> Educational
> > Center in Rockville MD with Narbik Kocharians 3CCIE. This dude knows WAY
> > too
> > much and he is a hell of reference. You'll realize how much you actually
> > know
> > and don't know. Make sure, and this is critical as well, that you think
> > you
> > can pass the lab before you take the class. Narbik will cover tons of
> > information in a short period of time and its crucial that you already
> know
> > what he is talking about so you pick out the things that you may not have
> > heard or our not clear on. Also have your questions ready. Before my
> > first
> > day I already had concerns I wanted to throw at him from all of my
> studying
> > and lab scenarios which he totally cleared up!! After that class I knew
> > more
> > than enough to pass the exam.
> >
> > CCIE #20908
> >
> >
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-- Narbik Kocharians CCSI#30832, CCIE# 12410 (R&S, SP, Security) www.Net-Workbooks.com Sr. Technical Instructor
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