From: Jack Flash (jack.flash@inbox.com)
Date: Wed May 21 2008 - 06:15:55 ART
That's got to be the easiest question I could imagine being asked, I'll
leave it as an exercise for the reader to determine my answer.
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of Dane
Newman
Sent: 21 May 2008 00:43
To: Scott Morris
Cc: keith tokash; <tvarriale@flamboyaninc.com>; Cisco certification
Subject: Re: Interview question (was :RE: CCIE# 20863)
I don't know about you guys but the hardest interview question I was
ask is will you take ten percent less then your making now
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On May 20, 2008, at 5:13 PM, "Scott Morris" <swm@emanon.com> wrote:
> Heheheheh... Stepping past boundaries has always been a specialty
> of mine!
> (grin)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> Of
> keith tokash
> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 4:37 PM
> To: tvarriale@flamboyaninc.com
> Cc: 'Cisco certification'
> Subject: Interview question (was :RE: CCIE# 20863)
>
> Nah, I don't believe in torturing interviewees. Just a probe. Some
> people
> can cough up the answer and have no idea what it means, some people
> can't
> answer it, some are almost insulted you asked and springboard into
> solid
> detail. It's a nice soft question to gauge whether you need to ask
> any more
> questions in that area or should just move on tactfully. After all,
> you
> never know exactly where a boundary is until you step past it.
>
> With a few exceptions, secrecy is deeply incompatible with democracy
> and
> with science.
> --Carl Sagan
>
>> From: tvarriale@flamboyaninc.com
>> To: ktokash@hotmail.com
>> CC: ccielab@groupstudy.com
>> Subject: RE: CCIE# 20863
>> Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 14:58:42 -0500
>>
>>
>> I think the point is that you can cough up that statement at will
>> during an interview...but when you are reading your first CCNA book,
>> that BGP statement probably doesn't make a ton of sense.
>>
>> And that goes back to my initial statement...a typical CCNA doesn't
>> really understand how BGP works.
>>
>> If that's what you consider fun in CCNA interviews...well...I'm not
>> sure what to say.
>>
>> BTW, there are regex tools out there to meet your requirements in 30
> seconds
>> or less (for your CCIEs).
>>
>> Tony
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
>> Of keith tokash
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 2:38 PM
>> To: Roger; Tony Varriale
>> Cc: 'Cisco certification'
>> Subject: RE: CCIE# 20863
>>
>> Hahaha, intricacies yes. But I believe they drum, "BGP uses AS-PATH
>> to avoid loops" into every CCNA student's head. At least they did
>> when I got mine
> in
>> 1999, and I hear it's much harder nowadays. I don't really worry if
>> they don't know that since we don't hire entry-level people with the
>> intention
> of
>> having them tune/load-balance our BGP, but it's nice to poke and
>> probe
>> a candidate's boundaries.
>>
>> With a few exceptions, secrecy is deeply incompatible with democracy
>> and with science.
>> --Carl Sagan
>>
>>> Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 12:31:15 -0700
>>> From: divineone@divine-wind.net
>>> Subject: RE: CCIE# 20863
>>> To: tvarriale@flamboyaninc.com
>>> CC: ccielab@groupstudy.com; ktokash@hotmail.com
>>>
>>> You don't know keith
>>>
>>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>>> Subject: RE: CCIE# 20863
>>>> From: "Tony Varriale" <tvarriale@flamboyaninc.com>
>>>> Date: Tue, May 20, 2008 12:09 pm
>>>> To: "'keith tokash'" <ktokash@hotmail.com>
>>>> Cc: "'Cisco certification'" <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I think expecting a typcial CCNA to know the intricacies of a
>>>> protocol
>> is
>> a
>>>> bit over zealous, no?
>>>>
>>>> Tony
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On
>>>> Behalf Of keith tokash
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 1:13 PM
>>>> To: theKonqueror; A.G. Ananth Sarma (GMail)
>>>> Cc: Cisco certification
>>>> Subject: RE: CCIE# 20863
>>>>
>>>> Good move. When I see CCNA on a resume my mind jumps to interview
>> questions
>>>> like, "what is BGP's loop prevention mechanism?" When I see CCIE
>>>> on a resume it jumps to, "what's the regex to filter transit
>>>> routes from our ISPs,
>> and
>>>> if
>>>> we didn't want to use a regex, how else could we filter?"
>>>>
>>>> If I see CCNA *AND* CCIE, my question will come out something
>>>> like,
>> "what
>> is
>>>> our ISP's loop transit prevention regex?" and my brain will
> blue-screen.
>>>>
>>>> With a few exceptions, secrecy is deeply incompatible with
>>>> democracy
> and
>>>> with
>>>> science.
>>>> --Carl Sagan
>>>>
>>>>> Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 23:12:19 +0530
>>>>> From: thekonqueror@gmail.com
>>>>> To: ananth.sarma@gmail.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: CCIE# 20863
>>>>> CC: ccielab@groupstudy.com
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks everyone.
>>>>>
>>>>> Although I don't want to get into the certification value
> discussions,
>> I
>>>> too
>>>>> agree with Joseph about loosing charm of RHCE. I got it few
>>>>> years
> back
>>>> when
>>>>> it was still cool. I don't feel like recertifying it...
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyways, I dropped CCNA from my signature as per orders of Mr
>>>>> Scott
>> Morris
>>>>> :P
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks once again for all your support.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Rahul Nagare
>>>>> RHCE, CCIE#20863 R&S
>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> http://thekonqueror.blogspot.com
>>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/thekonqueror
>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>>
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