From: rodrigo.gutierrez@nsn.com
Date: Tue Apr 15 2008 - 17:05:43 ART
It also depends of the company you want to work for. The company I work
right now, contractors make more money daily but they have no benefits,
no training and are treated differently company wise(no parking, no
insurance, etc). If you want to make more money go contract, if you want
to make carrier in a company you want to grow and eventually become
manager or so go full time. Also you are suppose to have more stability
when u r full time employee(although now days same stuff).
Regards,
Rod
>-----Original Message-----
>From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On
>Behalf Of ext Dane Newman
>Sent: Martes, 15 de Abril de 2008 02:55 p.m.
>To: Gary Duncanson
>Cc: Joseph Brunner; ccielab@groupstudy.com
>Subject: Re: contract or perm?
>
>There is good and bad to both. I have been contracting free
>lance now for about 6 months and would never go back. As a
>perm employee I worked every weekend and till midnight more
>times then not and hated every unpaid min of it. It seems the
>more you know and the better you are at your job the more they
>demand of you. I would never ever go back to full time employement.
>
>
>Heres a question for Joseph I know you mentioned cheap way for
>health insurance what was that for New Yorkers again?
>
>Dane
>
>
>On 4/15/08, Gary Duncanson <gary.duncanson@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>> The permy also gets holiday pay, sick pay and the *potential* of
>> career progression. Don't forget that. It's important as the
>metric in
>> terms of earnings between permy and contractor contract.
>>
>> Personally Im paid by the hour yes, but I do not stop the
>clock nor do
>> I bill for overruns..unless they are exceptionally long.
>>
>> Contract or permy..the infrastructure needs defending. Having come
>> through support earning stripes through the years before joining the
>> designer 'officer ranks' I understand that.
>>
>> As for police, and fire..well I don't think that's a fair comparison
>> at all. Confront the situations those guys have to deal with Joe, I
>> think you would shit your pants buddy and forget your hourly rate.
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Brunner" <
>> joe@affirmedsystems.com>
>> To: "'Gary Duncanson'" <gary.duncanson@googlemail.com>; <
>> ccielab@groupstudy.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 8:14 PM
>> Subject: RE: contract or perm?
>>
>>
>> All that matters is that you are paid BY THE HOUR...
>> >
>> > If you work for a full-time job you have to work weekends, nights
>> > and other "maintenance periods" for FREE!
>> >
>> > The hourly employee gets the bets of both worlds... weekdays to
>> > attend meetings, do designs, discuss the plan, and
>weekends to keep
>> > the clock ticking at a nice hourly rate!
>> >
>> > Do not short your family or yourself! Police, fire, and civil
>> > service often are paid by the hour- aren't you worth it?
>> >
>> > -Joe
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]
>On Behalf
>> > Of Gary Duncanson
>> > Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 1:42 PM
>> > To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
>> > Subject: contract or perm?
>> >
>> > Group,
>> >
>> > I realise that this could potentially turn into a difficult thread
>> > but I think those with emotional intelligence will prevent that!
>> >
>> > I wonder if folks could post the benefits of being
>contract or permy
>> > these days in terms of cisco network/engineer/designer employment.
>> >
>> > Things have changed..
>> >
>> > In 1997 companies charged $2000 dollars a day (per technician) for
>> > Joe's idiot son to install Windows 95 according to the idiots
>> > instructions to move from Novell to NT..*sigh*
>> >
>> > *caveat* the drive mappings didn't work, nor the printing!
>> >
>> > *further caveat* Apologies in advance to Joe's mom,
>> >
>> > I'm sure she's a nice lady who makes great gumbo!
>> >
>> > It's a different landscape these days but how are you doing?
>> >
>> >
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