Re: contract or perm?

From: Gary Duncanson (gary.duncanson@googlemail.com)
Date: Tue Apr 15 2008 - 16:39:07 ART


The permy also gets holiday pay, sick pay and the *potential* of career
progression. Don't forget that. It's important as the metric in terms of
earnings between permy and contractor contract.

Personally Im paid by the hour yes, but I do not stop the clock nor do I
bill for overruns..unless they are exceptionally long.

Contract or permy..the infrastructure needs defending. Having come through
support earning stripes through the years before joining the designer
'officer ranks' I understand that.

As for police, and fire..well I don't think that's a fair comparison at all.
Confront the situations those guys have to deal with Joe, I think you would
shit your pants buddy and forget your hourly rate.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Brunner" <joe@affirmedsystems.com>
To: "'Gary Duncanson'" <gary.duncanson@googlemail.com>;
<ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 8:14 PM
Subject: RE: contract or perm?

> All that matters is that you are paid BY THE HOUR...
>
> If you work for a full-time job you have to work weekends, nights and
> other
> "maintenance periods" for FREE!
>
> The hourly employee gets the bets of both worlds... weekdays to attend
> meetings, do designs, discuss the plan, and weekends to keep the clock
> ticking at a nice hourly rate!
>
> Do not short your family or yourself! Police, fire, and civil service
> often
> are paid by the hour- aren't you worth it?
>
> -Joe
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Gary
> Duncanson
> Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 1:42 PM
> To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: contract or perm?
>
> Group,
>
> I realise that this could potentially turn into a difficult thread but I
> think
> those with emotional intelligence will prevent that!
>
> I wonder if folks could post the benefits of being contract or permy these
> days in terms of cisco network/engineer/designer employment.
>
> Things have changed..
>
> In 1997 companies charged $2000 dollars a day (per technician) for Joe's
> idiot
> son to install Windows 95 according to the idiots instructions to move
> from
> Novell to NT..*sigh*
>
> *caveat* the drive mappings didn't work, nor the printing!
>
> *further caveat* Apologies in advance to Joe's mom,
>
> I'm sure she's a nice lady who makes great gumbo!
>
> It's a different landscape these days but how are you doing?
>
>
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