RE: DocCD redirects to Products & Services page!

From: Rik Guyler (rik@guyler.net)
Date: Sun Mar 23 2008 - 20:35:36 ART


According to the current "Ask the Experts" thread on the CCO discussion
forums:

"The approach our CCIE Lab operations is taken is to redirect the queries
that are no longer available at www.cisco.com/univercd to the current and
valid web page.

Every time a page is moved our lab team creates an entry allowing the new
path, so all needed documentation will be available for candidates.

Regards,
Maurilio"

As for redirects outside of Univercd, I believe you have never been able to
get beyond that area since they went to the online format (somebody correct
me if I'm wrong). But what do I know...last time I took the lab you still
had access to the actual CD. ;-)

Rik

-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of Ed
Lui
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 12:34 PM
To: YourPal
Cc: Dinesh Patel; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: DocCD redirects to Products & Services page!

I was asking questions related to San Jose. Not sure if that applies to all
locations.

On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 7:09 AM, YourPal <dearprudence28@gmail.com> wrote:
> This is a very serious issue to us candidates!
>
> It happens to all lab locations?
>
>
>
>
> On 3/22/08, Ed Lui <edwlui@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I was told by a lady at cisco a few minutes ago. Anything outside
> > the
> http://www.cisco.com/univercd will NOT be AVAILABLE during the lab exam.
> Even if the link is broken or the documentation has been moved outside
> of the link.
> >
> > :-(
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 3:55 AM, Dinesh Patel
> > <jedidinesh@googlemail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > my friend took the lab last week and he couldn't find the master
index.
> > > without this I'm completely lost as I have no chance of knowing
> > > which command belongs where... could be an abrupt end to my CCIE
> > > plans, but
> I'm
> > > hoping Cisco will sort it out soon.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 2:14 AM, YourPal
> > > <dearprudence28@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Group,
> > > >
> > > > Can anyone advise what is Cisco doing to the 12.4 stuff on DocCD?
> > > >
> > > > The "Cisco IOS Release 12.4 Master Indexes" is virtually gone as
> > > > I
> used it
> > > > today.
> > > >
> > > > Searching Command Reference redirects to:
> > > >
> > > >
> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps6350/prod_command_reference_list
> .html
> > > >
> > > > Anyone taken the lab recently, were you able to open the above
> > > > page
> and
> > > > any
> > > > of its links?
> > > >
> > > > Say, I know one particular command but don't know which
> > > > technology
> section
> > > > it is documented in. I can't search using 12.4 Master Indexes
> > > > because
> it
> > > > is
> > > > no longer available. So I try 12.3. But the command is not
> > > > available there.
> > > > Should I go to the 12.4 Command Reference and make a wild guess
> > > > or randomly search through some of the technology sections?
> > > >
> > > > Please advise.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thank you.
> > > >
> > > > BR,
> > > > Emil
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 3/6/08, Scott Morris <smorris@ipexpert.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Personally I like the ones that end up after about three
> > > > > redirects
> > > > getting
> > > > > you back where you started...
> > > > >
> > > > > Whoever thought this disassembly of the Documentation was a
> brilliant
> > > > idea
> > > > > is clearly one who never tried to find anything. *sigh*
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider)
> > > > > #4713, JNCIE-M #153, JNCIS-ER, CISSP, et al.
> > > > > CCSI/JNCI-M/JNCI-ER
> > > > > VP - Technical Training - IPexpert, Inc.
> > > > > IPexpert Sr. Technical Instructor
> > > > >
> > > > > A Cisco Learning Partner - We Accept Learning Credits!
> > > > >
> > > > > smorris@ipexpert.com
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
> > > > > Fax: +1.810.454.0130
> > > > > http://www.ipexpert.com
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On
> > > > > Behalf
> Of
> > > > > YourPal
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 4:27 PM
> > > > > To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > > > Subject: Re: DocCD redirects to Products & Services page!
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Group,
> > > > >
> > > > > It's really frustrating to navigate the DocCD these days.
> > > > > There are
> many
> > > > > redirections and they sometimes lead me to nowhere. I'm
> > > > > worried that
> > > > these
> > > > > redirected pages are blocked in the actual lab.
> > > > >
> > > > > Can anyone tell me whether the following access methods are
> permitted in
> > > > > the
> > > > > actual lab as per your recent lab experience:
> > > > >
> > > > > 1. http://www.cisco.com/univercd
> > > > >
> > > > > 2. Click on "Cisco Technical Support and Documentation"
> > > > >
> > > > > 3. In "Select a category", select "Cisco IOS Software"
> > > > >
> > > > > 4. In "Select a sub-category", select "Cisco IOS Software
> > > > > Release 12.4Family"
> > > > >
> > > > > 5. In "Select a product", select "Cisco IOS Software Releases
> > > > 12.4Mainline"
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you.
> > > > >
> > > > > BR,
> > > > > Emil
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 2/29/08, Jack Flash <jack.flash@inbox.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Personally I'm getting close to giving up with the DocCD
> > > > > > (although
> I
> > > > > > know that's madness). I can't get my head around the
> > > > > > layout, but
> that
> > > > > > is a small issue when compared to the fact that links often
> > > > > > fail
> and
> > > > > > it mentions that the links are getting moved to another site.
> Rather
> > > > > > disconcerting when it's the only resource in the lab.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > YourPal wrote:
> > > > > > > Hi Group,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Anyone experiences the following problem using DocCD?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Cisco IOS Release 12.4 Command Reference -> Cisco IOS IP
> > > > > > > Routing
> > > > > > Protocols
> > > > > > > Command Reference, Release 12.4
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Only BGP commands are available. Where are the other
> > > > > > > routing
> > > > > protocols?
> > > > > > I'm
> > > > > > > looking for OSPF commands specifically.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > When I clicked on Introduction, I saw OSPF Commands. I
> > > > > > > clicked
> on
> > > > > > > it, it redirected me to the Products & Services page:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/index.html
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I was baffled. It wasn't like this in the past. Anyone has
> > > > > > > a workaround
> > > > > > for
> > > > > > > this? Meanwhile, I have to refer to 12.2 Command Reference.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thank you.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > BR,
> > > > > > > Emil
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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