From: darth router (darklordrouter@gmail.com)
Date: Mon Mar 17 2008 - 22:46:30 ART
Yea, but what really matters? Who would win in a fight!!!
On 3/17/08, Hubert Pun <hsm_p@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> I am blessed enough to be one of those people with both (CCIEx2, one year
> away
> from getting PhD from a big-ten top-20 university).
>
> Factoring out other personal variables (e.g. family reason, financial
> reason),
> *to me*, CCIE is like an intro class, undergrad is like CCNA, a master
> degree
> is like CCNP and PhD is like CCIE.
> NRF: I agree with you except the following: the tough part of getting a
> degree
> from top school is NOT getting admitted. It is the long sleepless nights.
>
> Comparing these two is like comparing apple and orange (but at least both
> are
> fruits) I encourage everyone focus and continue their quest to CCIE. I
> hope
> that my comment would not distract any of you and I apologize in advanced
> if
> my comment offense anyone. These are purely my experience.
> Hubert
>
>
>
> > From: Ian.McDonald@Bespoke.com.au> To: swm@emanon.com;
> ccielab@groupstudy.com> Subject: RE: How to Become a CCIE v2> Date: Mon,
> 17
> Mar 2008 17:10:05 +1030> > For me, getting a CCIE is a bit like climbing a
> mountain "because it's> there." To continue the geological metaphor, doing
> a
> PhD would be a bit> like crawling out to the edge of a discipline, having
> a
> peek over the edge> and seeing if I can spot something that nobody else
> has
> ever seen.> I'd *really* like to experience both of these before I
> complete
> too many> more orbits of the Sun (nearly done 58, so far).> Meanwhile,
> back in
> the 'burbs, where's that pesky OSPF .11 subnet route gone> ...> Regards,>
> Ian>
> > -----Original Message-----> From: nobody@groupstudy.com
> [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of> Scott Morris> Sent: Monday,
> 17
> March 2008 2:08 PM> To: 'Joseph Brunner'; 'Thomas Perrier';
> ccielab@groupstudy.com> Subject: RE: How to Become a CCIE v2> > But back
> in
> college, the CCIE would have WAY interfered with drinking time!> > ;) > >
> -----Original Message-----> From: nobody@groupstudy.com
> [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of> Joseph Brunner> Sent: Monday,
> March 17, 2008 12:30 AM> To: 'Thomas Perrier'; ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> Subject: RE: How to Become a CCIE v2> > I resisted all day through 500+
> long
> dreary pages of the 12.4 Doc CD to> chime in... > > You are both
> forgetting
> ONE BIG thing that makes a degree (albeit more> valuable) MUCH EASIER than
> the
> CCIE for most...> > MOST PEOPLE GET THEIR DEGREES DONE WHEN THEY ARE
> YOUNG!!!!!!!!!!!> > Who cares how hard/long/difficult it is WHEN YOUR 22
> FREAKIN YEARS OLD!!!> > What 22 year old can't throw everything, time,
> student
> loans, behind getting> a masters/phd? All you need is a Death Valley
> temperature IQ and you're on> your way to Stanford, Stamford, CT and
> everything in between for a few more> years for that post-grad degree.> >
> Most
> CCIE's start MUCH older... Do you know how many guys I know who would>
> LIKE to
> do the CCIE but "can't find the time" or "their wife won't let them>
> disappear
> from the family"?> > This is the single reason the CCIE is much harder if
> you
> have a family...> > I hear it every damn day... My wife won't let me, my
> wife
> won't let me...> > Now what would really be HARD is getting into one of
> those
> schools and doing> your PHD while you have a wife and two small
> children!!!> >
> Ever since women lost their skirts for pants, their motherly instincts to
> be>
> John D. Rockefeller (Aka Big business created/bankrolled the Womens lib>
> movement to get two working bodies into the job force for the price of
> one,>
> hence inflation)> > Men just cant go out and bring home 2 chickens and a
> pot
> any more... we got> some diaper changing and laundry to do if we want to
> keep
> a> "relationship"...> > It's a catch 22, I got to get my CCIE, my living
> expenses have gone up with> this family, oh, wait, the 5'4" Chairman of
> Standard Oil on the couch with> the 34 DD's wont let me...> > LOL> >
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