From: Hubert Pun (hsm_p@hotmail.com)
Date: Mon Mar 17 2008 - 19:01:32 ART
I am blessed enough to be one of those people with both (CCIEx2, one year away
from getting PhD from a big-ten top-20 university).
Factoring out other personal variables (e.g. family reason, financial reason),
*to me*, CCIE is like an intro class, undergrad is like CCNA, a master degree
is like CCNP and PhD is like CCIE.
NRF: I agree with you except the following: the tough part of getting a degree
from top school is NOT getting admitted. It is the long sleepless nights.
Comparing these two is like comparing apple and orange (but at least both are
fruits) I encourage everyone focus and continue their quest to CCIE. I hope
that my comment would not distract any of you and I apologize in advanced if
my comment offense anyone. These are purely my experience.
Hubert
> From: Ian.McDonald@Bespoke.com.au> To: swm@emanon.com;
ccielab@groupstudy.com> Subject: RE: How to Become a CCIE v2> Date: Mon, 17
Mar 2008 17:10:05 +1030> > For me, getting a CCIE is a bit like climbing a
mountain "because it's> there." To continue the geological metaphor, doing a
PhD would be a bit> like crawling out to the edge of a discipline, having a
peek over the edge> and seeing if I can spot something that nobody else has
ever seen.> I'd *really* like to experience both of these before I complete
too many> more orbits of the Sun (nearly done 58, so far).> Meanwhile, back in
the 'burbs, where's that pesky OSPF .11 subnet route gone> ...> Regards,> Ian>
> -----Original Message-----> From: nobody@groupstudy.com
[mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of> Scott Morris> Sent: Monday, 17
March 2008 2:08 PM> To: 'Joseph Brunner'; 'Thomas Perrier';
ccielab@groupstudy.com> Subject: RE: How to Become a CCIE v2> > But back in
college, the CCIE would have WAY interfered with drinking time!> > ;) > >
-----Original Message-----> From: nobody@groupstudy.com
[mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of> Joseph Brunner> Sent: Monday,
March 17, 2008 12:30 AM> To: 'Thomas Perrier'; ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Subject: RE: How to Become a CCIE v2> > I resisted all day through 500+ long
dreary pages of the 12.4 Doc CD to> chime in... > > You are both forgetting
ONE BIG thing that makes a degree (albeit more> valuable) MUCH EASIER than the
CCIE for most...> > MOST PEOPLE GET THEIR DEGREES DONE WHEN THEY ARE
YOUNG!!!!!!!!!!!> > Who cares how hard/long/difficult it is WHEN YOUR 22
FREAKIN YEARS OLD!!!> > What 22 year old can't throw everything, time, student
loans, behind getting> a masters/phd? All you need is a Death Valley
temperature IQ and you're on> your way to Stanford, Stamford, CT and
everything in between for a few more> years for that post-grad degree.> > Most
CCIE's start MUCH older... Do you know how many guys I know who would> LIKE to
do the CCIE but "can't find the time" or "their wife won't let them> disappear
from the family"?> > This is the single reason the CCIE is much harder if you
have a family...> > I hear it every damn day... My wife won't let me, my wife
won't let me...> > Now what would really be HARD is getting into one of those
schools and doing> your PHD while you have a wife and two small children!!!> >
Ever since women lost their skirts for pants, their motherly instincts to be>
John D. Rockefeller (Aka Big business created/bankrolled the Womens lib>
movement to get two working bodies into the job force for the price of one,>
hence inflation)> > Men just cant go out and bring home 2 chickens and a pot
any more... we got> some diaper changing and laundry to do if we want to keep
a> "relationship"...> > It's a catch 22, I got to get my CCIE, my living
expenses have gone up with> this family, oh, wait, the 5'4" Chairman of
Standard Oil on the couch with> the 34 DD's wont let me...> > LOL> >
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