From: david@gotimmons.com
Date: Mon Mar 03 2008 - 19:34:14 ARST
I think it is very important to create your diagrams. After all, after 18 labs you are used to the pretty diagrams the vendor has created. Since you can not count the format of the drawings, the data in each one, and you can not write on their drawings, I think you should develop a system or method to document the lab.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Mike M <mike_malan@yahoo.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 12:04:06
To:ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: Diagrams in the lab
Hi, all
I would say a "must" diagram to draw would be a
physical/L2 diagram.
This will allow you to quickly check ports, vlan and
trunking assignments. L2 is very important to building
the lab.
From someone who has sat and failed 4 times. Attempt
number 5 coming up.
Regards
Mike
--- Luan Nguyen <luan.m.nguyen@gmail.com> wrote:
> Try Netmasterclass scenarios. They have prettiest
> diagrams of all vendors
> :))
> If you have vlans spanning switches and they ask you
> to only allow
> appropriate vlans traverse the trunk links, then
> without a diagram, it would
> be extremely hard to do.
> if you have complicated bgp scenario, you'll need a
> diagram for bgp.
> if you have complicated multicast scenario, you'll
> need to draw it out. If
> something goes wrong, you could troubleshoot easier.
> Then again, it all depends on people. For me,
> drawing make sense.
>
> -lmn
>
> On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 12:00 PM, theKonqueror
> <thekonqueror@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I've solved around 18-20 labs so far from
> workbooks, but I never created
> > any
> > diagrams, just used what's provided with the
> workbook. Sometimes that
> > makes
> > me wonder, am I doing something wrong by not
> making diagrams?
> >
> > Although I finish the tasks properly and with
> expected results.
> >
> > Any advise on this?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Rahul
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 7:26 PM, Scott Morris
> <smorris@ipexpert.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I would advise tracing the diagram they give you
> (quick 'n' easy for
> > those
> > > of us who can't draw!) and then putting
> everything you want/need on
> > there.
> > >
> > > L1 is important here only from a visualization
> standpoint. There won't
> > be
> > > any L1 faults to worry about or recabling to do.
> but sometimes the fact
> > > that a router plugs IN to Cat1 yet shares an Ip
> subnet with Cat4 seems
> > to
> > > vex some people. :) So do whatever is
> necessary, just do it quickly!
> > >
> > > I'm a big fan of the L3 diagrams though because
> I always like more
> > details
> > > that what seems to be supplied. Again, no
> points so make it fast, but
> > put
> > > whatever you need to make your brain work the
> most efficiently! If you
> > > gain
> > > speed in NOT rethinking things, you had
> definitely done well and not
> > > wasted
> > > your time!
> > >
> > > HTH,
> > >
> > >
> > > Scott Morris, CCIE4
> (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713,
> > > JNCIE-M
> > > #153, JNCIS-ER, CISSP, et al.
> > > CCSI/JNCI-M/JNCI-ER
> > > VP - Technical Training - IPexpert, Inc.
> > > IPexpert Sr. Technical Instructor
> > >
> > > A Cisco Learning Partner - We Accept Learning
> Credits!
> > >
> > > smorris@ipexpert.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com
> [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> > > Patrick Galligan
> > > Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 8:43 AM
> > > To: Cisco certification
> > > Subject: Diagrams in the lab
> > >
> > > Hi group,
> > >
> > > I'm looking for some tips on diagrams in the
> lab.
> > >
> > > How do you do your diagrams in the lab?
> > >
> > > Do you redraw them all and make your own notes?
> eg. note where you are
> > > having to do redistribution, and where you are
> sending summaries etc.
> > > Do you draw a physical layer diagram, in
> particular for the switching
> > > topology?
> > >
> > > For real networks that I work on for customers,
> I do extensive diagrams
> > of
> > > physical, layer 2, and layer 3 topology, but
> these take a lot of time,
> > > which
> > > of course they get charged for :) I will often
> have more than 1 layer in
> > > each diagram but rarely all 3 layers since it
> gets too messy. I won't
> > have
> > > the luxury of time (or charging someone for my
> time!) in the lab so I'm
> > > wondering how best to do it to give me all the
> info I need quickly.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Patrick
> > >
> > >
>
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