From: Robert Hosford (rhosford@certifiednets.com)
Date: Sat Mar 01 2008 - 11:03:10 ARST
Tony,
Doubling the number of CCIEs and outsourcing lowers the value of a CCIE far more than someone moonlighting. My number is free and clear and that doesn't hurt your value. Your value is your skill and how much you can make for the company. The partner might rent a CCIE number to have something on their website. But at the end of the day a partner still has to push boxes and deliver on their promises.
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of Tony Schaffran (GS)
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 2:41 PM
To: tvarriale@flamboyaninc.com; 'Cisco certification'
Subject: RE: Unassigned CCIE query.
I am speaking to all CCIE's.
This practice is simply unethical and serves to only bring down the value of
being a CCIE.
If a company can just buy a number at a discount rate, then why would any
company employ a CCIE at a premium rate?
Think about it.
Tony Schaffran
Network Analyst
CCIE #11071
CCNP, CCNA, CCDA,
NNCDS, NNCSS, CNE, MCSE
www.cconlinelabs.com
Your #1 choice for online Cisco rack rentals.
-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Varriale [mailto:tvarriale@flamboyaninc.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 11:37 AM
To: 'Tony Schaffran (GS)'; 'Cisco certification'
Subject: RE: Unassigned CCIE query.
I'm not sure which "a CCIE" you are speaking to. But, not only does Cisco
allow it, it happens.
If you want something to worry about, check out Mr. Reese and his "don't pay
for licenses but Cisco should support the 3rd party market gear" mantra.
That has way more wide spread impact on the community and economy.
Tony
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of Tony
Schaffran (GS)
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 12:58 PM
To: 'Tony Varriale'; 'Darren Johnson'; 'Cisco certification'
Subject: RE: Unassigned CCIE query.
This topic touches on basic ethics and I would hope a CCIE would have a
higher standard.
Is it right for a company to just buy a CCIE number to get the partner
discounts and deceive their clients by claiming to be a gold partner or such
without really having the resources on hand?
To me, this just seems fundamentally wrong.
Tony Schaffran
Network Analyst
CCIE #11071
CCNP, CCNA, CCDA,
NNCDS, NNCSS, CNE, MCSE
www.cconlinelabs.com
Your #1 choice for online Cisco rack rentals.
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of Tony
Varriale
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 10:48 AM
To: 'Darren Johnson'; 'Cisco certification'
Subject: RE: Unassigned CCIE query.
Yes it is. I would recommend not using that service you listed. You can
easily find someone to take it if you are in a major metro area by asking
around and possible even from your local Cisco office.
Normal rates are $2-3k/month with a 12 month contract.
Tony
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Darren Johnson
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 11:41 AM
To: 'Cisco certification'
Subject: Unassigned CCIE query.
Hey all. As per my post last week, I passed the lab and now have an
unassigned CCIE number (I paid for study and lab myself). I'm now in a
position where I'm weighing up my options. Is it possible to 'rent' out my
CCIE number to a company, whilst still remaining employed by my present
employer? I have heard of rentacert.com but people seemed skeptical of it.
Let me stress, I DO NOT WANT TO VIOLATE ANY CISCO POLICIES and if renting
out a cert is doing so, I WILL NOT DO IT. However, if it is possible/legal
and people out there do it, can they kindly explain how it works. I want to
get as much value out of my cert as possible.
Thanks for ANY advice
Darren
#20078
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