From: Larry (cc13lab@gmail.com)
Date: Thu Feb 28 2008 - 18:33:36 ARST
Just go with one of the major Service Providers, they are always looking for
ccies. At some point all the "major corp's" need to run their networks
nationally/globally so demand has not diminished at all....
-Larry
On 2/28/08, Joseph Brunner <joe@affirmedsystems.com> wrote:
>
> Really ever hear of Citigroup? It's only the 2nd or 3rd largest bank in
> the
> world...
>
> Guess what's happening over there?
>
> How about Washington Mutual? Or Merrill Lynch? Or Bear Stearns?
>
> There aren't "major corp's" right? And they are not cutting back their
> budget right? Its just like 1999 again... they are all about to underwrite
> The $4 Billion dollar IPO of razorfish.com all over again?
>
> LOL
>
> I think you need to talk to more people.
>
> If those guys are doing bad, I can tell you a lot of smaller banks,
> brokers,
> funds, are doing much much worse... remember wealth trickles down. If
> Merrill and CITI don't need me as a CCIE to drop in some sup 720's with a
> qos policy its because they are sitting on $500 Billion of CDO's that are
> about to write off/down.
>
> I personally know several contractors that have been released at CITI or
> are
> on the ropes.
>
> Its going to take a while for CCIE's to get back into the "senior
> tranches"
> again friend...
>
> I'd rather rebuild my knowledge than work as a CCIE for $120k per year in
> a
> stagflationary recession"
>
> LOL
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Tony
> Varriale
> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 2:17 PM
> To: 'Gary Duncanson'
> Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: SP or Security
>
> I must say that I'm really surprised to hear this. The partners I know
> can't hire good people fast enough/retain them.
>
> This is Chicago and NY. Voice is especially hot but security and r/s are
> a
> close second.
>
> Also, I don't know one major corp (mind you I don't know all) that is
> cutting their "Cisco" budget or plans on cutting back.
>
> Tony
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Joseph Brunner
> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 1:05 PM
> To: 'Gary Duncanson'
> Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: SP or Security
>
> I'm an RS (not SP or security) of course... but I can tell you its very
> bad
> here. I don't know anything about London, but i'm taking 2008 and maybe
> 2009
> to re-do my knowledge from the ground up.
>
> Remember a CCIE is an advanced beginner. I'm doing both of the certs that
> guy is, but I don't expect any more $$$ for it.
>
> Its time to appreciate what we have, even it its not what we expected...
>
> -Joe
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gary Duncanson [mailto:gary.duncanson@googlemail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 1:51 PM
> To: Joseph Brunner
> Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: SP or Security
>
> Joe,
>
> You are our man in New York.
>
> Just how bad do you think things will get over the next 12-24 months. It's
> clear that many of the overseas candidates aspire to working in the US.
> Not
> that I think you have a crystal ball or anything.
>
> Regards
> Gary
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joseph Brunner" <joe@affirmedsystems.com>
> To: "'Zeze Zee'" <zezezee@gmail.com>; "'Cisco certification'"
> <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 6:05 PM
> Subject: RE: SP or Security
>
>
> > Neither. Get it for yourself... the job market sucks... we are only
> > BEGINNING the end of a long painful housing/debt market crash... you'll
> > have
> > more than enough time to get both before you'll make more than old CCNP
> > dollars...
> >
> > -Joe
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> > Zeze
> > Zee
> > Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 12:51 PM
> > To: Cisco certification
> > Subject: SP or Security
> >
> > Hello GS,
> >
> > I want to start preparing for CCIE andI am interested to know which line
> > is
> > more in demand in the market both here in US and UK please.
> >
> > Appreciate your response.
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
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