From: Rik Guyler (rik@guyler.net)
Date: Tue Feb 26 2008 - 14:38:06 ARST
Thanks Joe.  I thought this was likely the case.  In my case it may come
down to a financial decision but at least now I know it works reasonably
well.
Rik 
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Joseph Brunner
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 11:16 AM
To: 'Rik Guyler'; 'Cisco certification'
Subject: RE: NBAR
Nbar is a poor substitute for real good devices like packeteer and bluecoat
proxy.
Nbar will detect the obvious things an can block them (gnutella, bear share,
morpheus, kazaa, edonkey etc). 
Most users nowadays though are smart enough to download programs that use
tcp 80 for file sharing, etc. or just go to youtube/facebook. 
I haven't had some time to try the latest mpf filters in the asa, but other
than the Instant messenger filters, nothing so far looks that promising.
Here is a real sh ip nbar protocol-discovery
From a live router at a client site right now...
As you can see its detecting fasttrack, bittorrent, edonkey and others. So
its obviously able to recognize and detect some basic file sharing P2p
apps...
SRrouter#sh ip nbar protocol-discovery int f0/0
 FastEthernet0/0
                            Input                    Output
                            -----                    ------
   Protocol                 Packet Count             Packet Count
                            Byte Count               Byte Count
                            30sec Bit Rate (bps)     30sec Bit Rate (bps)
                            30sec Max Bit Rate (bps) 30sec Max Bit Rate
(bps)
   ------------------------ ------------------------
------------------------
   ftp                      23355352                 10244065
                            14161581292              1205691124
                            0                        0
                            16886000                 585000
   netbios                  409458540                505148940
                            48569461812              478814532535
                            135000                   1359000
                            1366000                  12600000
   http                     65119549                 56399622
                            22139281720              63477008815
                            23000                    136000
                            10398000                 945000
   smtp                     7644343                  8091576
                            5394775554               2888383117
                            0                        0
                            1517000                  777000
   h323                     995898                   924739
                            588102019                615130918
                            0                        0
                            1387000                  749000
   tsrvrdp                  26349301                 17997409
                            5727943240               1378155745
                            5000                     2000
                            1320000                  719000
   gnutella                 14443247                 10265507
                            14400366909              4181962675
                            0                        15000
                            1348000                  458000
   skinny                   346703                   173793
                            127191851                70396011
                            0                        0
                            991000                   742000
   secure-http              21943241                 20155211
                            4681916013               9496238851
                            9000                     1000
                            960000                   741000
   pop3                     180882                   229431
                            22341825                 126467337
                            0                        0
                            570000                   722000
   nutellaudp               3332776                  2845122
                            1831437279               217027572
                            0                        0
                            815000                   268000
   rtp                      1150580                  1203771
                            310974614                1326492967
                            0                        0
                            231000                   802000
   novadigm                 387893                   218619
                            213317089                116877218
                            0                        0
                            324000                   690000
   pptp                     99920                    30127
                            47082277                 30688423
                            0                        0
                            433000                   573000
   nfs                      101829                   50509
                            90246095                 33102067
                            0                        0
                            438000                   513000
   mgcp                     210683                   105913
                            110163332                83810979
                            0                        0
                            331000                   588000
   notes                    68236                    33995
                            32425427                 35201121
                            0                        0
                            454000                   359000
   netshow                  87316                    76064
                            34186209                 62262956
                            0                        0
                            513000                   241000
   msnmessenger             307557                   225245
                            63599676                 61364497
                            0                        0
                            122000                   589000
   fasttrack                91728                    51227
                            49635500                 50854658
                            0                        0
                            83000                    533000
   edonkey                  1162870                  240950
                            508758540                14159006
                            0                        0
                            567000                   23000
   socks                    87804                    40865
                            32490054                 24443258
                            0                        0
                            80000                    463000
   sqlserver                1839080                  2341859
                            158292984                232534620
                            0                        0
                            183000                   322000
   rtsp                     79153                    53596
                            10256756                 68207016
                            0                        0
                            20000                    443000
   sqlnet                   65074                    28020
                            30158192                 20963473
                            0                        0
                            54000                    325000
   rtcp                     20684                    51209
                            2684508                  13776242
                            0                        0
                            14000                    265000
   ldap                     194699092                209600175
                            106836308294             48885130573
                            100000                   44000
                            174000                   83000
   printer                  571                      560
                            34266                    802630
                            0                        0
                            8000                     167000
   exchange                 663063                   767842
                            311073646                133922293
                            0                        0
                            56000                    100000
   vdolive                  41110                    13386
                            50601006                 986168
                            0                        0
                            90000                    3000
   dns                      2426291                  1178180
                            192480030                158160902
                            1000                     1000
                            46000                    45000
   kerberos                 508295                   506775
                            657065906                696357765
                            0                        0
                            26000                    29000
   xwindows                 2152                     838
                            402144                   111336
                            0                        0
                            43000                    5000
   bitttorrent              406                      749
                            26340                    833329
                            0                        0
                            1000                     41000
   icmp                     608591                   642688
                            73946719                 48299756
                            0                        0
                            16000                    4000
   aim                      2122                     1326
                            311552                   312027
                            0                        0
                            1000                     10000
   winmx                    232896                   28916
                            15106868                 12210093
                            0                        0
                            6000                     3000
   sip                      106                      104
                            14686                    44854
                            0                        0
                            3000                     5000
   gre                      0                        17558
                            0                        25036360
                            0                        0
                            0                        6000
   yahoomessenger           76640                    52880
                            7829428                  5004672
                            0                        0
                            2000                     4000
   dhcp                     68268                    0
                            22705618                 0
                            0                        0
                            5000                     0
   snmp                     394149                   42733
                            47458028                 5393608
                            0                        0
                            2000                     2000
   cuseeme                  435                      385
                            72512                    147865
                            0                        0
                            1000                     3000
   pcanywhere               104                      98
                            11266                    18304
                            0                        0
                            0                        3000
   rsvp                     289                      19
                            352297                   2635
                            0                        0
                            1000                     0
   citrix                   242                      18
                            184053                   2236
                            0                        0
                            1000                     0
   telnet                   72                       73
                            6178                     5285
                            0                        0
                            1000                     0
   eigrp                    0                        1514928
                            0                        112104672
                            0                        0
                            0                        0
   ntp                      3662                     2964
                            359670                   296852
                            0                        0
                            0                        0
   l2tp                     143                      6
                            181500                   724
                            0                        0
                            0                        0
   streamwork               128                      8
                            161749                   1067
                            0                        0
                            0                        0
   ssh                      217                      230
                            13020                    15880
                            0                        0
                            0                        0
   imap                     22                       9
                            1776                     606
                            0                        0
                            0                        0
   secure-pop3              15                       20
                            910                      1120
                            0                        0
                            0                        0
   nntp                     3                        3
                            408                      1353
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of Rik
Guyler
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 11:07 AM
To: 'Cisco certification'
Subject: NBAR
Does anybody have any real-world experience with NBAR detecting peer-to-peer
traffic?  I'm considering using this in place of something like a Packeteer
box but don't know how the two would compare for this.  The only real feel I
have for NBAR is from a lab environment.
 
Thanks,
 
Rik
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