From: Scott Morris (smorris@ipexpert.com)
Date: Mon Feb 25 2008 - 16:39:55 ARST
The thought is that everything must be FUNCTIONAL. it's kinda like making a
really complicated ACL and then neglecting to apply it to an interface.
Yes, it is a lab. No, you don't really have real hosts or traffic... But
it's all about pretending, and without applying, it wouldn't be functional.
So often there are "hidden" or "implied" requirements in order to make
something actually work. Verify what you have done as best you can, and
you'll find most of these things along the way!
HTH,
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-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of Greg
Wendel
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 6:57 PM
To: Steve
Cc: Vijay babu; Cisco certification
Subject: Re: I thought we should do what was asked and nothing more..
My theory is that the IE test writers do this on purpose to make sure that
CCIE candidates understand that there isn't always a definite 100 percent
answer and this vagueness is the hardest part of this lab exam. I have
seen discussions in the IE forums on this and there never seems to be a
direct answer either.
Another example of this would be the snmp-server enable traps command or
lack thereof in certain labs.
Another possibility is that Brian and Brian are just evil teachers who like
messing with us =).
On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 1:35 PM, Steve <steve.ccie@googlemail.com> wrote:
> I would be keen to see a reply to this from IE lads ..... although I
> haven't undertaken a mock lab as yet, I often find whilst doing the
> IGP/BGP/redistribution labs from workbook 2, additional configurations
> in the solution guide that doesn't seem to have been asked for in the
> workbook. I am not speaking of configs that are need to resolve
> network routing loops, etc.
>
> As an example, I recall one lab that asked to originate a default
> route via RIP - no problem but the solution included a filter to block
> the default route being propagated to a BB router. This was not
> specifically asked for - not having the filter in place had no impact
> on the network so ...when do you decide to add such config and when do
> you "don't do anymore than you are asked to do" ????
>
> Another personal favourite is in the SNMP questions - often says host
> x & y need to access snmp on the router, etc, etc. No mention of only
> allowing those servers and yet solution includes host filtering for
> snmp access?? If I don't put in host filtering, those hosts can
> certainly access snmp so is this incorrect? Yes, I know real world
> good practice is to filter hosts, lots of nice security, etc but, as
> often preached by all and sundry, the lab is not a real world, best
> practice test.
>
> regards,
> Steve
>
>
>
>
> On 22 Feb 2008, at 00:51, Vijay babu wrote:
>
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > I took the IE Mock lab 4 and thought I will pass it quite easliy but
> > shockingly dint pass it..
> >
> > No doubt I had to improve my answer checking skills.. but I am bit
> > confused if I just need to do what was asked or If I need to do bit
> > more.. an example is , in the BGP section I was asked to create a
> > new loopback and advertise it into BGP.
> > I did exactly that. But I got 0 for BGP section as I dint
> > redistribute this loopback into the IGP.
> > but I wasnt told this to be done.
> >
> > So, in CCIE exam if the IGP and BGP if the question doesnt ask us to
> > redistribute into each other or if they dint ask us to do a
> > summarisation of the IGP routes into BGP, should we go ahead and do
> > it??
> >
> > "Full reachability" does it also apply to routes learned from the
> > backbones BGP AS aswell? Is it acceptable to do extra redistribution
> > when we were not asked to do it?
> >
> > Cheers
> > Vijay
>
>
-- Gregory Wendel Springfield VA, 22153
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