From: Colin McNamara (colin@2cups.com)
Date: Sun Feb 24 2008 - 00:12:50 ARST
Technically only 50% can be above average, and about the same number
below ;)
-- Colin McNamara (858)208-8105 CCIE #18233,RHCE,GCIH http://www.colinmcnamara.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/colinmcnamara"The difficult we do immediately, the impossible just takes a little longer"
On Fri, 2008-02-22 at 08:08 -0600, Tony Varriale wrote: > Not everyone can be above average. > > Tony > > -----Original Message----- > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of > nortic @hackermail.com > Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 3:04 AM > To: Joseph Brunner; 'Gary Duncanson'; 'Alan Chng' > Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com > Subject: RE: Moving away from Cisco > > When the most common job at cisco is a software engineer earning more than > the average ccie, you know there is no money in Cisco, perhaps its time to > up the silver/gold requirements to provide better paid jobs. > http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/bestcompanies/2008/snapshots/6.html > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Joseph Brunner" <joe@affirmedsystems.com> > > To: "'Gary Duncanson'" <gary.duncanson@googlemail.com>, "'Alan Chng'" > <ccieteam@gmail.com> > > Subject: RE: Moving away from Cisco > > Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:52:52 -0500 > > > > > > I actually got the pleasure of meeting some financial field unix > > infrastructure engineers. They develop something like webshere and j2ee, > > etc. I can guarantee no CCIE san/voice/security makes what these guys > make. > > Even working in IRAQ, etc. > > > > I nearly fell off my chair when I heard what their bonus plan is. I even > > felt that tingling burning under my tongue I haven't felt since a good > > school yard fist fight... They said it best "there is no money in Cisco". > > They are dead right. > > > > Every day I'm more and more convinced we are in a field where there is > > little distinction between a clown CCNP who comes in and breaks > everything, > > and a CCIE who knows real world issues and rfc's both like the back of his > > hand. > > > > Oh, well, definitely diversify... and read up on those two... maybe this > is > > your lucky day... > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of > Gary > > Duncanson > > Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 8:03 AM > > To: Alan Chng > > Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com > > Subject: Re: Moving away from Cisco > > > > Why not?..variety is the spice of life. Besides I already work with lots > of > > different vendors as do many others on the list. > > > > Gary > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Alan Chng" <ccieteam@gmail.com> > > To: <ccielab@groupstudy.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 12:23 PM > > Subject: Moving away from Cisco > > > > > > > Fellow experts, > > > > > > > > > Considering the amount of time and 'sacrifice' made to achieve > the > > > CCIE and make our mark in the networking field, would anyone here > > > contemplate on moving to a role supporting another vendor (e.g. Alcatel, > > > Tellabs, Ericsson) ??. I'm referring to a role which requires in-house > > > training to learn the intricacies, proprietary protocols and CLI of the > > > vendor and be completely "isolated" from the Cisco world. I'm > discounting > > > Juniper since I tend to see them in the same market segment. > > > > > > Would anyone do it? And if so, what would be the factor? Better > opportunity? > > > Less competition? Another challenge? > > > > > > I find the switchover challenging as I believe a lot of us started the > CCIE > > > journey more as a hobby and through the course of the time and developed > a > > > familiarity to the IOS, not to mention the resources, information, > > > forums/communities that are widely available today. > > > > > > > > > Any opinions will be much appreciated > > > > > > Regards, > > > Alan > > > CCNP/IP/SP, R&S due in May
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