From: Darby Weaver (darbyweaver@yahoo.com)
Date: Sat Feb 16 2008 - 13:51:56 ARST
Yep - Sadistic that probably the one...
And that means there are a lot of sadistic people
running around on this list.
--- Scott Morris <swm@emanon.com> wrote:
> heheheheh.... Yeah, you aren't the first person to
> tell me that. :)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wes Stevens [mailto:wrsteve33-gssp@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 10:09 AM
> To: Scott Morris; Darby Weaver; Arun Kumar
> Arumuganainar; Cisco
> certification; Cisco certification
> Subject: Re: What is CCDE?
>
> You don't need any more marketing so it must fall
> into the last category in
> your case :)
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Scott Morris <swm@emanon.com>
> To: Darby Weaver <darbyweaver@yahoo.com>; Arun Kumar
> Arumuganainar
> <aarumuga@hotmail.com>; Cisco certification
> <ccielab@groupstudy.com>; Cisco
> certification <comserv@groupstudy.com>
> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 11:49:24 PM
> Subject: RE: What is CCDE?
>
> Progress? Evolution? Challenges?
>
> Is the question any different for having more than
> one CCIE versus adding
> your CCDE to the mix? Keep in mind that there's no
> "must have CCIE"
> prerequisite for participating in the CCDE track.
> So this could simply be
> seen as the logical extension of the CCDA/CCDP
> tracks. The CCIE Design was
> an interesting, but not-fully-baked idea (genetic
> fluke that occurs before
> full onset evolution?). ;)
>
> ROI? If you are working for a company, not likely
> unless you meet some
> requirement. If you are independent, then it's
> called marketing!
>
> Otherwise, it's just called sadistic.
>
> Scott
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com
> [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Darby Weaver
> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 11:03 PM
> To: Arun Kumar Arumuganainar; 'Cisco certification';
> 'Cisco certification'
> Subject: Re: What is CCDE?
>
> I'd suppose most everyone is asking the same
> question about the CCDE. I
> still remember the last time the CCIE-Design cert
> was offered and never made
> it as an offering to the people who passed that
> written exam.
>
>
>
> The question I'd ask myself if I had already
> achieved one or even more
> CCIE's is this:
>
> Am I seeing the Return on Investment?
>
> If not, another certification may not be the answer.
>
> If yes, then carry on.
>
>
> For myself, I think certs help, if nothing else they
> make me more confident
> at my job.
>
> However, I've seen a lot of people get the certs and
> get their feelings hurt
> too.
>
> Employers do not throw money at you just cause you
> got some more letters
> behind your name.
>
> Usually they have problems and they like to hire
> people who understand the
> problems and can be expected to create solutions to
> those problems.
>
> That's the bargain we are in the game for.
>
> Maybe the first CCDE's might see some increased
> value, but I always wonder
> in the back of my mind why out of the first CCIE's
> to make the 10 Year mark
> only a few are still active CCIE's in the first
> place.
>
> Yes - there will be lots of answers to this one, but
> I still wonder.
>
>
>
> Congrats on having earned one or more CCIE's.
>
>
> --- Arun Kumar Arumuganainar <aarumuga@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Any idea what it looks like ???
> >
> > I wanted to know more information about the lab on
> the cisco web site
> > . May some one here can throw some light.
> >
> > Having finished couple of CCIEs I am wondering if
> it is worth looking
> > at it? I am assuming (if it involves lab) it will
> involve significant
> > amount of prep time and hence wanted to think
> twice before making a
> > decision.
> >
> > Thanks and Regards
> > arun
> >
>
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