From: Robert McCallum (rmccallum@thrupoint.net)
Date: Sat Feb 16 2008 - 08:42:56 ARST
I failed the beta written by 2 marks. After question 200 I gave up and
became disinterested (maybe that's why I scored as well lol). Anyway I sat
the real deal yesterday and boy was that a bloody tough exam. Pass mark 70
and I got 70. lucky? Damn right I had written it off as a fail. I have
now sat about 8 ccie written exams - this was by far the hardest (or maybe
its just that im getting older).
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Scott Morris
> Sent: 16 February 2008 05:49
> To: 'Darby Weaver'; 'Arun Kumar Arumuganainar'; 'Cisco certification';
> 'Cisco certification'
> Subject: RE: What is CCDE?
>
> Progress? Evolution? Challenges?
>
> Is the question any different for having more than one CCIE versus adding
> your CCDE to the mix? Keep in mind that there's no "must have CCIE"
> prerequisite for participating in the CCDE track. So this could simply be
> seen as the logical extension of the CCDA/CCDP tracks. The CCIE Design
> was
> an interesting, but not-fully-baked idea (genetic fluke that occurs before
> full onset evolution?). ;)
>
> ROI? If you are working for a company, not likely unless you meet some
> requirement. If you are independent, then it's called marketing!
>
> Otherwise, it's just called sadistic.
>
> Scott
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Darby Weaver
> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 11:03 PM
> To: Arun Kumar Arumuganainar; 'Cisco certification'; 'Cisco certification'
> Subject: Re: What is CCDE?
>
> I'd suppose most everyone is asking the same question about the CCDE. I
> still remember the last time the CCIE-Design cert was offered and never
> made
> it as an offering to the people who passed that written exam.
>
>
>
> The question I'd ask myself if I had already achieved one or even more
> CCIE's is this:
>
> Am I seeing the Return on Investment?
>
> If not, another certification may not be the answer.
>
> If yes, then carry on.
>
>
> For myself, I think certs help, if nothing else they make me more
> confident
> at my job.
>
> However, I've seen a lot of people get the certs and get their feelings
> hurt
> too.
>
> Employers do not throw money at you just cause you got some more letters
> behind your name.
>
> Usually they have problems and they like to hire people who understand the
> problems and can be expected to create solutions to those problems.
>
> That's the bargain we are in the game for.
>
> Maybe the first CCDE's might see some increased value, but I always wonder
> in the back of my mind why out of the first CCIE's to make the 10 Year
> mark
> only a few are still active CCIE's in the first place.
>
> Yes - there will be lots of answers to this one, but I still wonder.
>
>
>
> Congrats on having earned one or more CCIE's.
>
>
> --- Arun Kumar Arumuganainar <aarumuga@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Any idea what it looks like ???
> >
> > I wanted to know more information about the lab on the cisco web site
> > . May some one here can throw some light.
> >
> > Having finished couple of CCIEs I am wondering if it is worth looking
> > at it? I am assuming (if it involves lab) it will involve significant
> > amount of prep time and hence wanted to think twice before making a
> > decision.
> >
> > Thanks and Regards
> > arun
> >
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