From: CCIE RS (cciers@hotmail.co.uk)
Date: Fri Feb 15 2008 - 07:36:16 ARST
On one side you agree your imperfections and on the other side you shun away
the criticism of your imperfections as untrue and outrageous, there is a
duality here. I can understand why you are doing it, this is your job and the
market for CCIE VOICE training is growing very much$$$$$. Dont forget now
other vendors are also comming forward for training CCIE VOICE.
If you had helped Mr Jatinder correctly I am sure he would not have posted on
IPEXPERT, Did he post on Tarun Pahuja or Brad? Also note that he has not
complained on Mr Scott Morris. He has specifically complained on the voice
trainers and probably even on the "$ale$ guy" who keep shunning him down.
ANYBODY WHO IS PREPARING FOR CCIE VOICE KNOWS THAT IPEXPERT WORKBOOK IS THE
EASIEST WORKBOOK AND CANT REALLY HELP YOU PASS THE EXAM IN THE CURRENT
STANDARDS.
The other top vendors for ccie voice are as follows.
1. http://voicebootcamp.com/
2. http://internetworkexpert.com
3. http://ccbootcamp.com
4. http://iementor.com (workbook)
5. http://netmetric-solutions.com (Asia)
> From: mbrooks@ipexpert.com> To: cciers@hotmail.co.uk> Subject: Re: Finally
Pass Voice Lab on first attempt> Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 09:27:29 -0500> CC:
ccielab@groupstudy.com; jatinder.p.singh@bt.com> > Hi, Mark.> > Thanks for
posting your concern. Perhaps others were thinking the > same, so I will
quickly reply to all.> > Frankly, I would prefer *not* to have to engage on
this list. You are > right; it is for CCIE candidates and, while you might
find that > buddying up to a "sales guy" running a training company could be a
> great help to your studies, that is not the purpose if this list.> > The
fact is, I have been given permission by Paul Borghese (the owner > of Group
Study) to engage in these kinds of conversations. As I have > stated many
times, it is not our intent or desire to stomp out any > negative comments
about IPexpert. We are not perfect, so part of doing > business is that there
will be criticism from time to time. That's OK. > The trouble arises with
posts like the one that started this thread, > which are so untrue and
outrageous that it is reasonable to defend the > correct position.> > In
closing, I encourage you to search the archives for any posts by > me. I think
you will find that I have never abused the system. You > will also find plenty
of constructive criticism with no reply from > me. ;-)> > Feel free to verify
my comments with Paul as well.> > With that, I apologize for the distraction
and wish all of you great > success with your CCIE pursuit.> > --> Matt
Brooks> Vice President - IPexpert, Inc.> Telephone: +1.810.326.1444 x101>
Mailto: mbrooks@ipexpert.com> > > > On Feb 14, 2008, at 2:24 AM, CCIE RS
<cciers@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:> > > has Matt Brooks passed his CCIE written to
be in this forum? does he > > have a Lab date for the main lab exam?> > is he
not a sales type of guy from IPEXPERT? Can this forum allow > > sales people?
If so I hope the team from Internetworkexpert joins as > > they are excellent
in what they do. (Kady, Mike, Misty..etc)> > SORRY IF I AM WRONG.> >> >> >
Regards> > mark> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > Date: Wed, 13
Feb 2008 13:00:04 -0500> > > From: mbrooks@ipexpert.com> > > To:
ccielab@groupstudy.com> > > Subject: Re: FW: Finally Pass Voice Lab on first
attempt> > > CC: jatinder.p.singh@bt.com> > >> > > JP,> > >> > > First, I
would like to congratulate you on your success. Even in > > light of> > > your
review of IPexpert, I believe that you gained some benefit > > from our> > >
products, courses and support. For that, I am pleased to have been > > a part
of> > > your success.> > >> > > It is good to see that Brad and his team were
able to help you as > > well. I am> > > pleased to say that we have developed
a great relationship with the> > > CCbootcamp staff. Brad runs a fine
operation and is generous with > > his time> > > and desire to help CCIE
candidates.> > >> > > I am, however, disappointed that your review did not
acknowledge > > the many> > > phone calls and emails that our team engaged
with you, which > > certainly went> > > well outside our "normal" level of
support. I suppose it is true > > in business> > > that "you can't please all
the people all the time," but we will > > continue> > > trying to assist other
CCIE Voice candidates...> > >> > > ----------------> > > On February 8th 2008
I passed my CCIE Voice Lab in RTP. I took the > > IPexpert> > > 10 day boot
camp in Richardson TX, and I can't express enough how > > much this> > >
helped me to pass. I have been working with IPT for over 6 years > > and have>
> > done Call Manager installs all the way back to the version 3.0, > > but
still> > > picked up a wealth of new knowledge at this boot camp that if I > >
hadn't had I> > > would not have passed.> > >> > > Vik's help was amazing and
I couldn't come up with any questions > > to stump> > > him. If I had a
question on any of the technology he always had an > > answer> > > for me.
IPexpert's Voice boot camp and practice materials are > > second to> > > none.
Had I not gone to the boot camp I don't feel like I would > > have passed> > >
the lab. I would also like to say the proctor lab equipment is > > great, and
I> > > used it exclusively to study for the lab at home since I could not > >
afford to> > > buy my own lab.> > >> > > Sincerely,> > >> > > Allen Hartman> >
> CCIE #11381 (Voice, R&S)> > >> > > ----------------> > >> > > I passed on
January 29, 2008. One of my friend recommended > > IPexpert's CCIE> > >
Bootcamp as a good way to prepare for the lab. The bootcamp was > > really> >
> helpful in terms of measuring your own readiness to take the test. > > I
would> > > definitely recommend to sign-up for this bootcamp BEFORE you even >
> sign up> > > for the real lab attempt. You may find out that you are not
ready > > or there> > > are many other/better strategies you could use to give
you a > > better chance> > > at passing the lab.> > >> > > Mark Snow was very
helpful/knowledgeable and provided useful > > insights about> > > things to
look out for during the test. I also ordered the > > workbook from> > >
IPexpert which I used to do time trials for the real test.> > >> > > I guess I
am really proud that I was able to pass this test more > > than 10> > > years
after I passed my first R&S CCIE. Big thumbs up for IPexpert!> > >> > > Andras
Arato> > > CCIE #3297 (Voice, R&S)> > >> > > ----------------> > >> > > I
would like to express my gratitude for the training that I > > received from>
> > IPexpert in preparing for my Voice CCIE lab. I used the Voice > > Proctor
Guide> > > to gain a solid foundation of the possible testable topics in the >
> Voice CCIE> > > lab, and then partook of the 5 day lab experience boot camp
taught > > by Vik> > > Malhi roughly one month before I sat for the exam. I
was thoroughly> > > impressed with Vik's knowledge, and a few times during the
course > > my lab> > > partner and I would bet on how quickly Vik would know
the answers > > to our> > > questions before we finished the questioning
sentence.> > >> > > In addition, during the month after my bootcamp and before
my lab > > practical,> > > I posed many questions to the online forum that
Mark Snow would > > respond too.> > > Mark's explanations were clear and
concise and he went above and > > beyond in> > > many situations to make sure
I understood the material. I am happy > > to report> > > that on January 22nd
of 2008, I passed the Voice lab and feel > > strongly that> > > IPexpert was a
contributing factor.> > >> > > However, I would also like to make the point
that IPexpert does > > not train> > > people to pass the CCIE Lab exam. To the
contrary, IPexpert's > > training> > > regiment ensures that each individual
actually understands the > > technology> > > and truly becomes a better
engineer.> > >> > > In much appreciation,> > >> > > Mike Schultz> > > CCIE
(R&S, Voice) #7935> > >> > > ----------------> > > IPexpert was recommended to
me by a local Cisco SE, who recently > > took a boot> > > camp, and by a
coworker who used the lab guide to pass his Voice > > lab last> > > year. I
worked through several of the exercises in the workbook > > before> > > taking
the boot camp.> > >> > > The boot camp really helped me understand several
critical areas > > much better> > > and helped me develop a strategy for the
lab. After the boot camp > > I worked> > > through all of the labs in the
workbook and the new e-books using > > the> > > Proctor Labs online racks.
Working through all of the labs helped > > me learn> > > even more and
increased my speed.> > >> > > After completing the workbook and the e-books I
felt ready for the > > lab and> > > was not nervous on test day. Because of
all the hard work and > > preparation I> > > was able to pass the Voice lab on
my first attempt. This was not > > easy and> > > required many hours of study.
You cannot just go to a boot camp > > and expect> > > to pass, but with hard
work and IPexpert products you can pass the > > lab.> > >> > > The most
important part of the whole experience of studying for > > and passing> > >
the voice lab was that I greatly expanded my voice knowledge, > > which will>
> > help me provide better service to my customers.> > >> > > Hal White, CCIE
(R&S, Voice) #12507> > >> > > ----------------> > >> > > Since my first CCIE
Routing & Switching achieved in 2003, I have > > been used> > > IPexpert
workbook. I practiced the complete whole book including the> > > break-down
practice and one-day mock labs. It helped me a lot to > > pass the> > > R&S
lab in 2 attempts. The workbook covered much wider scope than > > the real> >
> lab, and it was based on the 9-routers case scenarios (the real > > lab has
only> > > 6 routers). Which helped me a lot to keep the confidence till the >
> end to> > > complete the R&S CCIE lab within 4 hours. Yes, 4 hours only. So
I > > could have> > > another 4 hours to fully test the lab one by one.> > >>
> > Before I started my CCIE Voice study, I researched on which > > workbook
in the> > > market is the best that could fit me to practice the hands-on > >
experience,> > > since I didn't have much hands-on, regardless I was a CCVP. I
am > > so far very> > > happy with the decision to choose the IPExpert
workbook. It > > covered a lot of> > > major topics for the section practice
on CallManager, Unity, IPCC, > > Fax, GW,> > > GK and so forth. It took me 3
attempts to pass Voice CCIE in exact > > one year.> > > The workbook, again,
helped me prepared more stuff than the real > > lab asked> > > for. So I could
feel confidence everytime sit inside the real lab. > > The first> > > two
attempts were not really bad, and I felt I was closer and > > closer to the> >
> final success. And eventually I nailed it down on the 3rd attempt. > > It
was> > > again, in the first 4.5 hours I completed the whole lab, and spent >
> the rest> > > of time for testing and troubleshooting.> > >> > > IPExpert
had the first-class of CCIE Voice rack rental. I tried a > > couple> > >
sessions before the final exam during the Christmas and New Year > > holiday>
> > season. Their after-hour support was phenomenal. It was instant and> > >
efficient. I was very impressive with the effort of the support > > team,
since> > > they were just like standing beside you and reply to you through >
> the email> > > and fix the issue very quickly. Also, IPexpert has their own
> > mailing list,> > > in addition to their online CCIE forum, that I could
post my > > questions and> > > get the answer instantly from both instructors
and other CCIE > > candidates> > > around the world.> > >> > > I would
certainly recommend IPexpert products to those future > > CCIEs. Welcome> > >
to the club.> > >> > > Thank you again IPexpert.> > >> > > Weihui Ted Meng,
CCIE #12621> > >> > > ----------------> > >> > >
http://www.ipexpert.com/index.cfm/Testimonials> > > --> > > Matt Brooks> > >
Vice President - IPexpert, Inc.> > > Telephone: +1.810.326.1444 x101> > >
Mailto: mbrooks@ipexpert.com> > >> > >> > >> > > > Subject: Finally Pass Voice
Lab on first attempt> > > > > Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 12:17:33 +0000> > > > >
From: jatinder.p.singh@bt.com> > > > > To: ccielab@groupstudy.com> > > > >> >
> > > Dear All,> > > > >> > > > > Yesterday, I passed my ccie voice lab at
brussels on my first > > attempt.> > > > > Firstly I would like to thank all
who helped me towards > > achieving this> > > > > goal. Special thanks to
Tarun pahuja, and the CCBootcamp team > > (Brad) who> > > > > gave me personal
support. Even though I did not buy any of their> > > > > products they gave
their personal contact details and helped > > me when I> > > > > needed much
help.> > > > >> > > > > I started this journey in early 2007, I cleared the
written > > after> > > > > reading all the recommended cisco press books. Then
my company > > supported> > > > > me in buying all the voice lab equipment
which I setup in my > > office.> > > > > They also approved for me to go on a
bootcamp, and I choose to > > go to the> > > > > IPexpert for 12 days.> > > >
>> > > > > I bought all IPexpert products including COD and spent more then> >
> > > $10,000. However I found their bootcamp demoralizing and > >
disappointing> > > > > . I was discouraged and told that no one could pass the
lab in > > the> > > > > first attempt. I felt they were hiding things from me
so as to > > prolong> > > > > my studies so as to keep me lingering on.. Their
support was > > terrible,> > > > > their workbook had errors, little
explanations and I found > > myself> > > > > spending hours being frustrated
when things would not work due > > to> > > > > ommisions or things not
explained properly. As a customer I > > expect a> > > > > teaching product to
be accurate and explain things so as to > > reinforce> > > > > my technical
abilities, but soon I discovered that their > > strategy was> > > > > to hide
things, to make me it difficult instead and to mentally> > > > > discourage me
so that I was guaranteed to fail on first attempt.> > > > >> > > > > However I
kept positive and determined to pass this exam and > > made a> > > > >
challenge to pass it on my first attempt. I spent the next two > > months> > >
> > off work and studying 15-18 hours per day and working on my > >
weaknesses.> > > > > I consulted the cisco press books several times until I
was > > comfortable> > > > > with every technology and spent hours on-hands
practising on > > all the> > > > > technologies.> > > > >> > > > > From my
experience the lab was not as hard as I thought it > > would be. I> > > > >
got back from Brussels today and saw the good news.. now its > > time for a> >
> > > break and some celebration.> > > > >> > > > > Thanks to you all.....> >
> > >> > > > > J P Singh> > > > >> > > > > CCIE (R & S , Voice)> > > > >> > >
> > > >
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